Adonis Stevenson vs Oleksandr Gvozdyk
Fight Notes: Canadaian 175lb WBC champion, 41 year old Adonis Stevenson, makes the 10th defence of his title, taking on undefeated Olympic bronze medallist, Ukrainian, Oleksandr Gvozdyk. Stevenson takes on Gvozdyk in his home country, coming off a hard fought draw against former WBC 168lb champion, Vegas based Swedish fighter, Badou Jack, coming from the brink of defeat, to rally late, hurt Jack, and keep his belt. Gvozdyk comes off an underwhelming UD win over 36 year old Frenchman, former European champion, Mehdi Amar. Stevenson starts fast, but Gvozdyk is able to have his way for the early-mid rounds, hurts Stevenson, and appears to score a knockdown which the referee misses, Stevenson has his own success, but doesn't sustain it, and Gvozdyk is more consistent, Stevenson does rally later, appears also to score a missed knockdown, but in round 11, Gvozdyk hurts him badly, inflicts a beating, and finishes Stevenson off brutally, landing a jarring right hand against a vulnerable Stevenson to finish the fight. Gvozdyk beats Stevenson by stoppage, wins the WBC title, puts himself in the mix amongst the best in his division, Stevenson is defeated for only the 2nd time in his career, losing his title. After 10 rounds, Stevenson was ahead, one card had the fight even at 95-95, another had Stevenson in a slight lead at 96-94, whilst a third scored Stevenson ahead by a lot, 98-92, he was called 'criminal' by Gvozdyk's hotheaded trainer, Teddy Atlas, after the fight. Tragically, Adonis Stevenson collapses in his dressing room after the fight and is rushed to hospital, he is in intensive care for a day, he does later gain stability and seems likely to live, but days after the fight, he is diagnosed with a severe traumatic brain injury. Stevenson's family thank thousands of concerned boxing fans and fighters for their support, but ask for people to respect their privacy. 3 weeks after the fight, Stevenson wakes up from his coma, and a few weeks later, he starts to walk again. |
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Champion97
Wed, 2018-11-28 09:46
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Prediction,
Interesting fight.
Stevenson proved to the world, just how much being a world champion means to him, as he came from the brink of defeat, to hurt Badou Jack with a sickening body shot, to then go to war with Jack, be virtually unable to stand at the last bell, to just hanging into his belts with a draw. Stevenson is good, we know that, he has been defended his WBC title 9 times, you can't be a world champion for that long if you are not good, but Stevenson is 40, he is very old, and if he was relatively fresh before the Jack fight, he isn't now, after that all out war, he must be declining, he is past his prime, but it is hard to consider him a shot fighter who just needs to retire, after his performance and effort against Jack.
Gvozdyk is 15-0, good record, he was a good amateur, 2012 Olympic bronze medallist, and as a professional, he has done well. I'm not sold on Gvosdyk, he is unbeaten, but I wasn't impressed by his last two performances, and I question whether he is good enough to achieve at this level. Gvozdyk did look great against Isaac Chilemba, on the Kovalev vs Ward undercard, made statements against Nadjib Mohammedi (stopped Mohammedi a round earlier than Kovalev) and Yunieski Gonzalez (stopped him in 3, Jean Pascal only edged Gonzalez 96-94), and some people are sold on Gvozdyk, think he is a good fighter, is amongst the best at 175, but he is unproven.
For Gvozdyk, this couldn't come at a better time, Stevenson's reputation has been helped by the Jack fight, so he would be more credited for beating him, but at the same time, he is fighting a 40 year old who was beaten up, almost stopped and pushed to his physical limit in his last fight, and Gvozdyk, at 31, 15-0, is as good as he will ever be, if he will ever be a world champion, this is probably his best chance.
Stevenson can be hurt, we know that, he was knocked out by Boone, dropped by Fonfara, in fights, when he is hit clean, he doesn't just walk through it, and he was so close to gone in his last fight, but how is Gvozdyk's chin?, he has been dropped, it was on the undercard of Crawford vs Postol, he fought Tommy Karpency (who Stevenson stopped in 3 a year earlier), he made a mistake in round 1, was hit clean, went down, wasn't seriously hurt, but it was a clean knockdown, Gvozdyk got up, came back to stop Karpency in 6, probably learned from that, it was a couple of years ago, but still, he was down, and in recent fights, I haven't been that impressed. Is Gvozdyk just not imoroving, and not world level? Is he underrated and does he just need a challenge? We'll find out on fight night.
Stevenson is a devastating puncher, he is explosive, has fast hands, throws every shot, attacks head and body, he is one heck of a front runner, and for 4-6 rounds, he is very dangerous, he is bound to gas out after 6 rounds, but for the opponent, getting to that stage is a challenge in itself, can Gvozdyk start the way Jack did and not let Stevenson hit him clean? If Stevenson hits Gvozdyk clean, can he soak it up? Can he recover quickly enough? Can he survive? If this goes past 6, and Gvozdyk isn't in a terrible way, how dangerous is he?, Jack couldn't put Stevenson away, Gvozdyk is bigger than Jack and hits harder, can he do what Jack couldn't? He doesn't have Jack's experience, probably not his output, he might not have Jack's offensive ability, variety.
There is no proof that Gvozdyk isn't good, as I think he isn't, I would not be surprised if I was proven wrong, and he beat Stevenson, proved himself at world level, but I think Stevenson will win this, I think it's levels, and when a fighter isn't good enough, fights a dangerous, fast starter like Stevenson, it will probably be a short fight. I think Stevenson will stop Gvozdyk in 4 rounds, I think the first 3 rounds will be tentative, negative, Stevenson will get Gvozdyk's respect as soon as he so much as hits his glove, Stevenson might nick the first few rounds by doing what work is done, but in round 4, he will find an opening, land a counter, hurt Gvozdyk, and it will take him about 25 seconds to blast him out of there.
Boxing Knowledge
Mon, 2018-12-31 06:07
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Add a scorecard for Floyd Mayweather vs Tenshin Nasukawa
Champion97
Mon, 2018-12-31 07:09
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Ended in 1 round, not a real fight either. I don't think it is a meaningful historic fight, just a bit of fun for Mayweather, making a few $ by beating up a non-boxer.
SalTnutZ1
Mon, 2018-12-31 07:12
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I wish someone would pay me millions to beat up someone 30lbs lighter, haha. Joke fight for sure.
Champion97
Mon, 2018-12-31 07:18
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I wish Mayweather would just stay retired and continue as a promoter, maybe a trainer, he has first hand experience, but he is better putting his '0' on the line and fighting properly one last time than doing this crap, still, money talks I suppose and it's that simple, no risk of fighting McGregor or this Japanese kid.
SalTnutZ1
Mon, 2018-12-31 07:26
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Yeah. He needs to put his efforts and money behind his promotion, and leave the fight game. If he fights another legit contest, it will be against Pac Man, but I think that it all depending on how he looks against Broner. If he looks dominant, I don't think it happens. If he looks average in victory, or if Broner wins, I think that is the only way that fight happens.
Champion97
Mon, 2018-12-31 07:33
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I can't see Floyd fighting Pacquiao, given Pacquiao is younger than he is, and more improtantly doesn't have as much ring rust, but I think it is more likely than him fighting a good prime fighter. I think Mayweather is too intelligent to do anything stupid, and we haven't seen him box properly since 2 fights ago for a reason, I wouldn't be surprised if next year we saw him pull another stunt like the McGregor or Tenshin fight, he made 88 million from the Tenshin fight, I believe 200 million from the McGregor fight, it's nuts, I could work 100 lifetimes and not make that much
Boxing Knowledge
Mon, 2018-12-31 20:43
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You people talking out your ass if Tenshin would have done the same thing to Mayweather it would have been historic Mayweather getting knocked out by Kickboxer 30 pounds lighter. When the black man fight and win its a joke when losses accrue it's historic.
SalTnutZ1
Tue, 2019-01-01 04:49
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No, I still wouldn’t have thought it a legit match. I’m not a Floyd hater looking to see him lose. I watched for the entertainment of it, but it wasn’t a legit boxing match. Dude, stop trying to stretch everything into something racist. It is a joke at this point how hard you try. I’m no racist, neither is Champ, and no one here, since I’ve been around, has said anything about someone’s race, especially in a derogatory manner, other than you of course. You’re just an asshole, and no one thinks it’s because of your race, it’s due to your mouth.
Boxing Knowledge
Tue, 2019-01-01 05:27
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I knew you was gonna speak up for the white race come shut my mouth Pus. It's about race now we seen to much monkey shit from white boys and others its about race big time now and if my brother would have lost ofays like you would have been making fun of Floyd can't con me. I can hear it now white people like you would have been happy hater or not folks like me would have been sad you would have found joy if Floyd lost not just you all bird shit would have been happy.
SalTnutZ1
Tue, 2019-01-01 05:31
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I didn’t speak up for any race, I simply pointed out that a 3 round exhibition, regardless of who is fighting, isn’t worthy of scoring or considering as a relevant fight. That literally had nothing to do with race. I know you have some weird persecution complex, and every perceived slight you feel has to do with race, but you’re just trying to push that shit to get people to back off and let you “win” some argument. You know, none of us would even know what race you are if you yourself didn’t assert it into everything, and if you refrained from the continuing racism and racial insightment. You really must have no friends. I can’t imagine anyone enjoying your presence.
Boxing Knowledge
Tue, 2019-01-01 05:38
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It would have been water-cooler talk longer and louder you guys would have talked about what a idiot Mayweather is all kinds of stuff if you can't admit you would have laughed you lying to yourself and me I know you would have been entertained if Floyd got Knocked Out. I got lots of Pals but Fuck people anyway.
SalTnutZ1
Tue, 2019-01-01 05:44
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You absolutely have no idea what you’re talking about, and no coherent thoughts. I was rooting for Floyd, as I’m a fan of his, and laughing at all the MMA people crying, like they did with McNuggets, so again, you have no idea.
Boxing Knowledge
Tue, 2019-01-01 05:47
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Get out of here with that if he lost you would have had a Holy Shit moment with a smile don't con me don't try.
goosu
Thu, 2019-01-03 01:05
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I agree. I don't think they even had a judge presiding over the fight, did they?
Champion97
Thu, 2019-01-03 01:27
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I don't know, but what I do know is that it wasn't an official fight, was scheduled for 3 rounds, and Mayweather's last 2 'fights' were against guys who had no boxing records, Mayweather has been retired since 2015, and he will probably remain retired. How people can give Mayweather credit I don't know, 20 year old kid who is 5'5, fights at 122, never had a boxing fight, joke of a fight. Mayweather is the best fighter who has ever lived in my opinion, but knows he wouldn't beat Crawford, Spence, Canelo now, I think he would even admit it.
Boxing Knowledge
Thu, 2019-01-03 03:37
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Fights upsets can and will happen and at those odds it happens all the time Mayweather -260 Tenshin +200 the people in Vegas gave Tenshin a chance. The odds on the fight Tenshin was a live dog Mayweather was focused on not getting embarrassed.
Boxing Knowledge
Thu, 2019-01-03 03:20
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Code word joke for you guys I get it if Mayweather got his ass beat you would have Clowned him for the rest of his life.
Champion97
Thu, 2019-01-03 03:27
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True man, if a boxer beats a non-boxer, we give him no credit, if a boxer loses to a non-boxer, picking on someone smaller than him and from a different sport, he will be ridiculed, the fight was a joke, Tenshin isn't a boxer at the end of the day
Boxing Knowledge
Thu, 2019-01-03 03:33
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Tenshin is a Fighter they was in a Fight only hands in a Fight those upset things happen sometimes.
Boxing Knowledge
Thu, 2019-01-03 03:30
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The doctor was still with Cyborg after the smaller much weaker Nunes knocked her out. Fighting even the better person can get caught. If Tenshin clipped Floyd it would have been historic in the eyes of all the people calling it a joke. If Mayweather got knocked out it would have been the most important fight of all time.
Champion97
Thu, 2019-01-03 03:42
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I understand, but Mayweather's record would still be 50-0. It is the size aspect, but more than that, it is the fact that Mayweather has not done anything meaningful in boxing since he retired in 2015, the boxing record of McGregor and Tenshin, 0-0, and with that, Mayweather will not be praised for making money hand over fist, beating up non-boxers. As far as I'm concerned, it wasn't a historic event, because it wasn't a real boxing fight, it won't go down in the books, but if Mayweather was a white man, he would get the same criticism and stick for picking on small non-boxers like Tenshin, so just to clear that up, it is not about race.
Mayweather needs to either return or don't, in my opinion, he'd be better off coming back and losing, than doing these stupid clown shows, but really his old plan was better retire in 2015 and not come back, be a trainer, promoter, 49-0, great career, boxing legend, but it's ll about money I suppose.
Boxing Knowledge
Mon, 2018-12-31 19:42
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I was up watching right at the time I was telling you add a score card Floyd was knocking Tenshin down for the first time it's a gross mismatch but its a historic match kids gonna have to know it happen just like all exhibitions other elite fighters I know happened from different eras. This not the first Boxing exhibition match for a Hall Of Fame Boxer.
goosu
Wed, 2018-11-28 01:45
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For those that don't already know, this fight will be free on Showtime's youtube channel.
Floyd tough com...
Wed, 2018-11-28 09:31
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Oh damn nice...I didn't know that. Available in every country ? I'm from the Netherlands.
Gold
Fri, 2018-11-30 04:04
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I believe the youtube broadcast will be a rebroadcast after the Wilder vs. Fury main event. It probably is region locked to the US unless there isn't a network deal in the Netherlands, but there are easy ways around region locked content.
goosu
Fri, 2018-11-30 16:11
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I actually think it is going to be free as a lead in to Wilder vs Fury. That is what was posted on r/boxing anyways.
goosu
Fri, 2018-11-30 15:45
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I'm not sure, it depends on whether there is a different network there that has the rights to the content. However, you can easily mask your location with a VPN. I use epic privacy browser when content is locked for the US.
SalTnutZ1
Fri, 2018-11-30 03:09
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Just saw the latest betting line on this fight. They have Gvozdyk as the favorite, with a -175. That was the same number they had on Wilder earlier in the week, but that has moved over the week to -155. Will be interesting to see where those ends up after weigh ins, and into tomorrow. Could be an indicator, at least from the big boxing bettors, who they believe the real favorite is. Just thought that was interesting.
Gold
Fri, 2018-11-30 04:06
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I think Stevenson to win is a good value as the underdog, so it doesn't surprise me there was some betting activity on Stevenson. It's kind of surprising he's an underdog at all though.
SalTnutZ1
Fri, 2018-11-30 04:10
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I was surprised, too. I bet on OG, because I think he will win. I have a 3 fight parlay with him, Wilder, and Conquest, so we'll see how it goes, haha. I also laid one large one on Wilder straight up. But that number moving closer to Fury worries me as a Wilder fan. We'll see how it ends as more big money comes in tonight. I got him at -175 on Monday, and it shifted to -155 by this morning. This was all Bovada odds, BTW, Don't know what all the LV casinos have the numbers at.
Gold
Fri, 2018-11-30 04:18
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What made you put Conquest in the parlay? I don't know anything about him or Turchi.
SalTnutZ1
Fri, 2018-11-30 04:43
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Just good money to be made if it hits. Nothing in particular made me lean on him. I hit a decent one a couple weeks ago playing it a similar way, so taking a shot. Both have faced limited opposition. Both about the same size. But if I'm leaning on an relatively unknown guy, I'll go with the one who seemingly, had tougher comp, as I'd guess that a bad record in British boxing is better than a bad record in Italian boxing(that is bad records when looking at who each have faced).
goosu
Sat, 2018-12-01 17:23
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That was an obvious KD. What BS.
goosu
Sat, 2018-12-01 17:28
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House fighter gets hit with the most obvious clean KD and it is called a slip. Ridiculous.
goosu
Sat, 2018-12-01 17:53
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Lol, ref misses a KD for Stevenson this time. Ridiculous.
Champion97
Sat, 2018-12-01 18:06
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Haven't seen the fight because it is not available in the UK, but I take my hat off to Gvozdyk, he's a good world level fighter. Stevenson has to retire now.
By the looks of it, Stevenson's speed, power, strength, early, was too much for Gvozdyk, but Stevenson is not a fighter who carries his attributes into the late rounds.
Stevenson should get recognition as a good fighter, and a fighter who wasn't acknowledged in his era, he proved he can dig deep, against Badou Jack, but his refusal to fight Kovalev has damaged his reputation, a shame, because he is underrated, was a champion for a while, didn't get dethroned until he was 40, that's some going.
goosu
Sat, 2018-12-01 18:18
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Gvozdyk was very, very cautious for the first few rounds. That is how Stevenson won the first few rounds. Gvozdyk didn't want to get caught by that crazy power early, and the rounds ended up being close ones where Stevenson won by being the only one to land a few clean shots. Turned around after that.
goosu
Sat, 2018-12-01 18:15
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What a finish! Gvozdyk followed his gameplan very well from start to finish outside of being caught by a left in the 10th round. Worked Stevenson with volume while punishing him with the right hand more often than Stevenson could land the left. Most of the time cut better angles to land that right. That's the southpaw killer. Never stayed in front of him and showed good defense picking off shots on his gloves. When Stevenson gassed, he capitalized with accurate powerful combos.
Great gameplan by Gvozdyk and Teddy Atlas.
Champion97
Sat, 2018-12-01 18:17
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What was more key in the fight?, Gvozdyk being a good fighter?, or more about Stevenson's age?, it is obviously both, but having seen the fight, which of the two would you say was more key in the fight?
goosu
Sat, 2018-12-01 18:26
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It could go either way. Like you said, both definitely contributed. I'd say Gvozdyk being a good fighter. My reasoning would be that Stevenson smashed Badou Jack for the first six rounds. Gvozdyk lost rounds early, but they were relatively close cautious rounds, and he turned it around in the 3rd round by KDing Stevenson with a right hand(it wasn't called). Stevenson wasn't gassed by that point, Gvozdyk was just the first guy to consistently catch Adonis from the outside in a long time. Age definitely contributed to the late finish with Stevenson gassing, but most would agree Jack is one of the top LHWs, and Gvozdyk capitalized where Jack let Stevenson off the hook.
Champion97
Sat, 2018-12-01 18:34
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I would say that is because Stevenson has a vulnerable chin, but Stevenson, after 6 rounds, will always tire. Do you think Gvozdyk had the extra size and power to put a tired, hurt Stevenson over like Jack didn't?, because Stevenson was on tne absolute brink in rounds 7-9, Jack just didn't quite have the power to get him out of there. To catch Stevenson from the outside consistently is good, especially coming on strong as early as round 3, because before he blows a gasket, Stevenson is a monster. Where do you rate Gvozdyk based on this win? I assume definitely top 4, probably about as impressive a win as Alvarez's win over Kovalev would you say?
goosu
Sat, 2018-12-01 20:21
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I think Gvozdyk had maybe a little extra power/size contributing, but he was also landing cleaner right hands than Jack did, and he definitely performed better in the first six rounds when Stevenson is at his best. Jack did more in the middle rounds, but I definitely still rate Gvozdyk's overall performance better. I had him ahead on points by multiple rounds when he finished Adonis.
I'd say about as impressive as Alvarez's win. That is right around where he'd rate(even with Alvarez). Not the guy I expect to be the man at LHW, but a solid boxer who impressively beat a longtime former champ.
Champion97
Sat, 2018-12-01 20:28
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I think the Russians are the top 2 at 175, you agree?
goosu
Sun, 2018-12-02 04:11
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I have Bivol at the top. I'm not sure on Beterbiev, but I think his power makes him dangerous for anyone. I don't think there is a lot of separation in general.
Gold
Sat, 2018-12-01 19:34
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Woodburn, the Canadian judge, had it 98-92 Stevenson. An inexcusable scorecard.
goosu
Sat, 2018-12-01 20:25
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Terrible card. Some of those rounds were close, I could see a draw, or maybe Stevenson up 1 if we're really pushing it and giving him every swing round. No way in hell he was up 6 points.
Floyd tough com...
Sat, 2018-12-01 23:18
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Gvozdyk did way better than Jack..he dominated really. Only lost the early 2 rounds because not much happened and 1 0r 2 rounds because he was careful. He beat Adonis up good and proper
Gold
Sun, 2018-12-02 06:06
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I agree. I think Jack would beat Stevenson in a rematch but not as easily as Gvozdyk. Gvozdyk proved a lot in this fight, Stevenson obviously still has great power and he was able to negate most of it, take what did get through and launch his own offense. Jack was too risk-averse in his fight to push Stevenson as Gvozdyk did.
Champion97
Sun, 2018-12-02 02:54
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https://www.boxingscene.com/adonis-stevenson-remains-hospitalized-intens...
I will pray for Stevenson's well being, this is a very dangerous sport.