Callum Smith vs John Ryder

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Callum Smith vs John Ryder
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Average: 3.6 (11 votes)

Date: 
Saturday, November 23, 2019
Location: 
Echo Arena, Liverpool, Merseyside, UK
Rounds Scheduled: 
12
Contracted Weight: 
168
Titles at Stake: 
WBA Super Middleweight World Title (Smith's 2nd defence)
Referee: 
Michael Alexander

Official Judging
Francisco Alloza Rosa 116 - 112
Jose Roberto Torres 116 - 112
Terry O'Connor 117 - 111

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Averaged Fan Card:

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Callum Smith
                                                                    
9.89
9.41
9.89
9.13
9.65
10
9.03
9.34
9.51
9.27
9
9.10
John Ryder
                                                                    
9.10
9.62
9.13
9.89
9.34
9
9.96
9.65
9.51
9.72
10
9.89


Fan Cards: Callum Smith vs John Ryder


scorecard by SANTOS
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
CALLUM SMITH
10
9
10
9
10
10
9
9
10
9
9
9
113
JOHN RYDER
9
10
9
10
9
9
10
10
9
10
10
10
115


scorecard by DIEGOYEYE
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
CALLUM SMITH
10
10
10
9
10
10
9
9
9
9
9
9
113
JOHN RYDER
9
9
9
10
9
9
10
10
10
10
10
10
115


scorecard by ARJ GUY
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
CALLUM SMITH
10
9
10
9
9
10
9
9
10
9
9
9
112
JOHN RYDER
9
10
9
10
10
9
10
10
9
10
10
10
116


scorecard by GOOSU
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
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8
9
10
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12
Total
CALLUM SMITH
10
9
10
10
9
10
9
10
10
9
9
9
114
JOHN RYDER
9
10
9
9
10
9
10
9
9
10
10
10
114


scorecard by PRZEMO663
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
CALLUM SMITH
10
10
9
9
9
10
9
10
10
10
9
9
114
JOHN RYDER
9
9
10
10
10
9
10
9
9
9
10
10
114


scorecard by BRIENLP
Round
1
2
3
4
5
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7
8
9
10
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12
Total
CALLUM SMITH
10
10
10
9
9
10
9
10
9
9
9
9
113
JOHN RYDER
9
9
9
10
10
9
10
9
10
10
10
10
115


scorecard by NF82
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
CALLUM SMITH
10
10
10
9
9
10
9
9
10
10
9
9
114
JOHN RYDER
9
9
9
10
10
9
10
10
10
9
10
10
115


scorecard by MBUCK
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
CALLUM SMITH
10
10
10
9
9
10
9
9
10
9
9
9
113
JOHN RYDER
9
10
9
10
10
9
10
10
9
10
10
10
116


scorecard by WILLIAMBOXING
Round
1
2
3
4
5
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7
8
9
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12
Total
CALLUM SMITH
9
9
10
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
9
9
115
JOHN RYDER
10
10
9
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
10
10
113


scorecard by POWERPUNCHER999
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
CALLUM SMITH
10
9
10
9
10
10
9
9
9
9
9
9
112
JOHN RYDER
9
10
9
10
9
9
10
10
10
10
10
10
116


scorecard by GUY INCOGNITO
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
CALLUM SMITH
10
10
10
9
10
10
9
10
10
10
9
9
116
JOHN RYDER
9
9
9
10
9
9
10
9
9
9
10
10
112


scorecard by TYLERRCURTIS
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
CALLUM SMITH
10
10
10
9
9
10
9
10
9
9
9
9
113
JOHN RYDER
9
9
9
10
10
9
10
9
10
10
10
10
115


scorecard by CHRIS M95
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
CALLUM SMITH
10
10
10
9
9
10
9
9
9
9
9
9
112
JOHN RYDER
9
9
9
10
10
9
10
10
10
10
10
10
116


scorecard by OTURN10
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
CALLUM SMITH
10
10
10
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
9
9
117
JOHN RYDER
9
9
10
10
9
9
10
9
9
9
10
10
113


scorecard by FLOYD TOUGH COMPETITOR MAYWEATHER
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
CALLUM SMITH
9
9
10
9
10
10
9
9
9
10
9
9
112
JOHN RYDER
10
10
9
10
9
9
10
10
10
9
10
10
116


scorecard by MAGIC MAN
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
CALLUM SMITH
10
10
10
10
10
10
9
9
10
9
9
9
115
JOHN RYDER
9
9
9
9
9
9
10
10
9
10
10
10
113


scorecard by BROOKLYNGUY6
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
CALLUM SMITH
10
9
10
9
10
10
9
9
9
9
9
9
112
JOHN RYDER
9
10
9
10
9
9
10
10
10
10
10
10
116


scorecard by CHAMPION97
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
CALLUM SMITH
9
9
10
9
10
10
9
9
10
10
9
9
113
JOHN RYDER
10
10
9
10
9
9
10
10
9
9
10
10
115


scorecard by CHIN
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
CALLUM SMITH
10
9
10
9
10
10
9
9
9
9
9
9
112
JOHN RYDER
9
10
9
10
9
9
10
10
10
10
10
10
116


scorecard by OLAAIN1994
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
CALLUM SMITH
10
9
10
9
10
10
9
9
9
9
9
9
112
JOHN RYDER
9
10
9
10
9
9
10
10
10
10
10
10
116


scorecard by BIGHEAD384
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
CALLUM SMITH
10
9
10
9
10
10
9
10
10
9
9
10
115
JOHN RYDER
9
10
9
10
9
9
10
9
9
10
10
9
113


scorecard by VLAMONZOB
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
CALLUM SMITH
10
9
9
9
10
10
10
10
9
9
9
9
113
JOHN RYDER
9
10
10
10
9
9
9
9
10
10
10
10
115


scorecard by VC1088
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
CALLUM SMITH
10
9
10
9
10
10
9
9
10
9
9
9
113
JOHN RYDER
9
10
9
10
9
9
10
10
9
10
10
10
115


scorecard by NOCTISSOLID
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
CALLUM SMITH
10
10
10
9
10
10
9
9
9
9
9
9
113
JOHN RYDER
9
9
9
10
9
9
10
10
10
10
10
10
115


scorecard by PETIEROACH
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
CALLUM SMITH
10
9
10
9
10
10
9
9
10
10
9
9
114
JOHN RYDER
9
10
9
10
9
9
10
10
9
9
10
10
114


scorecard by JAROD KILLIAN
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
CALLUM SMITH
10
9
9
9
10
10
9
9
9
9
9
9
111
JOHN RYDER
9
10
10
10
9
9
10
10
10
10
10
10
117


scorecard by YUNIDVR
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
CALLUM SMITH
10
9
10
9
9
10
9
10
10
9
9
104
JOHN RYDER
9
10
9
10
10
9
10
9
9
10
10
105


scorecard by MINIMAXBOXING
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
CALLUM SMITH
10
10
10
9
9
10
9
9
9
9
9
10
113
JOHN RYDER
9
9
9
10
10
9
10
10
10
10
10
9
115


scorecard by SALTNUTZ1
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
CALLUM SMITH
10
9
10
9
10
10
9
9
9
9
9
10
113
JOHN RYDER
9
10
9
10
9
9
10
10
10
10
10
9
115


Comments

Champion97's picture

Prediction,

Smith proved himself at world level last year, when he beat Groves, won the title, won the tournament. Ryder doesn't have any wins on the level of Smith's win over Groves, and he has 4 losses.

Smith's natural weight class seems to be 175, making 168 must be a struggle, because he is 6'3, isn't spindly, he's very big at 168, Ryder fought at 160 until 2017, he's very short, he seems strong at 168, this might be his natural weight class, but he is certainly the smaller fighter in this fight. Unless Jack Arnfield had more reach than Smith, which I doubt, Ryder is at a bigger reach disadvantage in this fight than in any of his losses.

Ryder might bw underrated, he deserves this shot. 3 of Ryder's 4 losses have been close, he has shown vast improvement in his last few fights, his last loss was against Fielding, in April 2017, and since then, he has won all 4 fights by stoppage.

I'm not sold on Ryder at world level, because I thought he was behind against Sirotkin, who had struggled against lower level opponents, Nielsen lost wide to Dmitry Chudinov and a very old Abraham, and his last opponent drew against opponent with a losing record. Ryder lost to Fielding, Arnfield, Blackwell, who are good at British level, but not world level.

Ryder might be better than I think, he gave Saunders all he could handle, not against the Saunders who beat Lee and schooled Lemieux, but Ryder has definitely improved since then. Ryder knocked out Jamie Cox in 2 rounds, earlier than Groves did, made a statement, and although beating Nielsen might not be impressive, it was a mismatch.

Ryder might be bad for Smith, style wise, because Smith has fought no southpaws in 5 years, a maximum of 2 southpaws in his career and probably 1. Smith beat Vladine Biosse in 2014, it was one sided, I didn't see the fight, but people were unimpressed, I don't know if stance was a factor, but it's possible.

Interestingly, although the most boxers are orthodox, 3 of Ryder's last 4 opponents have been southpaw, not his last opponent, but the other 3 are southpaws. Ryder's last opponent was orthodox, he went 12 rounds against Arnfield, Etches, Fielding, in 2016-17, he is far more experienced fighting orthodoxes than Smith is fighting southpaws. Smith will need good, southpaw sparring. I'm interested to see how Smith deals with his first southpaw opponent in 5 years.

I think Smith is levels above Ryder, and should win this fight without many problems. I think Ryder will give Smith issues early, land combinations on the back foot, the stance will be a factor, but I don't think Smith will get off to a terrible start because he is much fundamentally better, and although Ryder can make it about speed, stick and move, throw combinations, I don't think he can get the better of a stand off, Smith has the better jab, is the better counter puncher, and is technically better than Ryder.

I think Smith will cut off the ring, apply educated pressure, and if he does that, he will find it easier to get into range. I think in the mid rounds, Smith will counter Ryder more often, land the stand out shots, and if he can corner Ryder, get on the inside, and Ryder has to exchange to land any punches himself, Smith will get the better of it, because I don't think Ryder can hurt Smith. I think Ryder will keep his guard up, won't stand still on the ropes, but Smith will sustain the pressure, land clean to head and body, in high volume, round after round, he will break Ryder down, and stop him late.

This is going to be a very one sided deal.

petieroach's picture

Bad scorecards, Ryder fought a much closer fight especially considering the last few rounds

Gold's picture

Canelo would do a job on Smith, he was lucky to escape with his title here

Olaain1994's picture

Ryder won that quite handsomely for me. Disgusting cards. Terry O’Connor needs to be sacked for that, produced some awful cards down the years. In terms of Smith I don’t think he beats any of the top guys at 168 or 175 now. Saunders would school him, Canelo would knock him out, Plant and Benavidez both outbox him. He’s clearly dead at the weight. Could probably be a Cruiserweight that guy. Ryder deserves another shot. Feel sickened that moment has been taken away from him.

Champion97's picture

We'll see, fighters have off nights, sometimes good fighters have close calls against opponents they were heavy favourites against, but no doubt we saw weaknesses from Smith, it wasn't a good performance. I agree he is dead at the weight, he needs to move up, however, I don't think Saunders schools him, Ryder gave Saunders a close fight, I know Saunders has improved a lot, but so has Ryder, Saunders just had a tough fight against Coceres, who is probably a level below Ryder, and I think Smith is a bad opponent for Saunders now that Smith has done 12 rounds against a southpaw, Saunders's best strengths are different to what gave Smith problems in this fight. Smith vs Saunders would be a great fight, 50/50 fight in my opinion, but I think Smith needs to move up, you can only drag yourself down to a weight for so long, making 168 will only get harder, so he should move up, there might not be a lot of fights for him at 175, but some, Buatsi, in a year or 2, that's an in house fight, or Bivol, if he stays at 175.

Guy Incognito's picture

I disagree. John Ryder impressed me, but Callum Smith looked like a clear enough winner to me and deserved the comfortable decision the judges gave him. Those scorecards did not seem disgusting to me. And I think that Smith would manage to keep Canelo away and perhaps outbox Plant and Benavidez, but those fights would be close. I do agree that Saunders may be able to defeat Smith. But I do not think that Saunders would school him; I think that he could win a close decision.

Champion97's picture

That was a poor performance from Smith, I thought he was lucky to come away with the win, the rounds I found toughest to score were rounds I gave him, not Ryder. I think Ryder being underrated was a factor, he is in his prime, it's easy to underestimate a fighter who has lower level losses, but his form has been great, he deserved this shot, ge was there to win, was well prepared for how Smith fights, but I still wasn't impressed by Smith.

I think Smith is dead at 168, at 6'3, he's done well to make that weight for so long, but Ryder hurt him to the body, he looked weak in the late rounds, Ryder, even being the smaller fighter, looked stronger, which suggests Smith was drained. I think the stance was a factor, irrelevant to Ryder bullying Smith and roughing him up, but Smith was hesitant to throw, he made mistakes and got countered, he boxed well at long range overall, he got his timing in the mid rounds, landed good straight shots on the counter, used his reach, but not for enough of the fight.

I wasn't impressed by Smith's inside fighting ability, and he stayed on the ropes, I was surprised Ryder was able to get up close and work away, I didn't think Smith would let him get the momentum, I thought he would do more damage in a fight, but he was offensively poor, Ryder had a lot more variety, threw more shots, was more aggressive, and he was working well on the inside.

I didn't like the scorecards, I don't see how Smith won by a wide margin at all, Smith might have done better than it seemed on camera, the judges are ringside, but it might be poor judging.

MAAAAANNN! Callum Smith is a fucking hoax! Seriously, what a fucking hype job! For fuck's sake, if he were to fight Canelo he'd end up being a Rocky Fielding part two!

Guy Incognito's picture

John Ryder impressed me, but Callum Smith looked like a clear enough winner to me and deserved the comfortable decision the judges gave him. I do not understand why most users here had Ryder winning on the cards, though.

Wow. Shocked at that comment mate. It surely had to have been close either way.

This was a woeful performance from Smith, a fighter that I rate very highly. Issues at the weight? possibly so. I think what happened here is that he completely underestimated Ryder. I for one, thought Ryder would do well to get into the second half of the fight.

It was either a case of underestimating his opponent or getting a bit matcho and wanting to do it the hard way. He just allowed Ryder to jump in whenever he liked, getting into smothering distance. Remember how brilliantly he used the jab to box Groves long? That seems a long way away now.

I'd also think Joe Gallagher deserves a bit of stick for this performance. Ryder's game plan was perfect. Smith didn't seem to know how to react. Sat on the ropes too often. Got caught with shots he never should be.

I'm not going to write him off, he's far better than he showed and Groves is a better fighter than Ryder. BJS doesn't take him to school, not a chance. As Eddie Hearn says, maybe that performance makes it easier to make big fights. I'd still like to see him in against someone like Plant, who I think it's a very skilled fighter. If he moves up, why not take on someone like Kovalev?

One thing is for sure, Smith is a very lucky boy to still have the belt around his waist. I didn't score the fight but I did watch it, thinking Ryder dominated the second half of the fight.

it's controversial but not a robbery but it's a home decision

Champion97's picture

I agree.

I also agree with that. The issue was the fact all 3 cards had it wide for Smith. That really should have been a split or majority decision.