Patrick Nielsen vs John Ryder

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Patrick Nielsen vs John Ryder
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Date: 
Saturday, October 14, 2017
Rounds Scheduled: 
10
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Fight Notes: 

On the undercard of George Groves's first world title defence, John Ryder takes on Danish Patrick Nielsen, in a bout, scheduled for 10 rounds.

In round 5, Ryder finds a sensational finish, as he flattens Nielsen, making a statement, possibly setting up a big opportunity, if not, then taking a big step further towards that.




Fan Cards: Patrick Nielsen vs John Ryder


scorecard by ALLYBLAACK
Round
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2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
PATRICK NIELSEN
9
8
9
9
35
JOHN RYDER
10
10
10
10
40


scorecard by ADAMJO260
Round
1
2
3
4
5
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9
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12
Total
PATRICK NIELSEN
9
8
9
9
35
JOHN RYDER
10
10
10
10
40


scorecard by THEICEMANJDOG
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
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12
Total
PATRICK NIELSEN
9
8
9
9
35
JOHN RYDER
10
10
10
10
40


scorecard by CAPMAN
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
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9
10
11
12
Total
PATRICK NIELSEN
9
8
9
9
35
JOHN RYDER
10
10
10
10
40


scorecard by BOXING KNOWLEDGE
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
PATRICK NIELSEN
9
8
9
9
35
JOHN RYDER
10
10
10
10
40




Comments

Champion97's picture

Prediction,

I think this is a very interesting match up! There are two very different ways of looking at this fight.

John Ryder is a fighter who is athletic, who can punch, who does most things right, he is a good fighter. Rider's first defeat came in a close fight against Billy Joe Saunders back in 2013, since then, Ryder has secured quite a few wins, he's beaten some good fighters, he boxed well against Sergey Khomitsky, though this was after being stopped by Nick Blackwell. After the Khomitsky fight, Ryder lost what should have been a close, but was a wide decision to Jack Arnfield, before taking on Adam Etches, winning, boxing well, having moved up to 168, unfortunately for Ryder though, his return to winning ways was short lived, as he lost a split decision to tough, hard hitting Liverpudlian, Rocky Fielding. I think Ryder is good, I think he has some solid, quality attributes, he's awkward, he can punch, his world rate is high, he's throws from angles, he works in bursts in every round, makes it hard for the opponent to get that distance, doesn't let the opponent take any little rests. I think Ryder is one of those fighters who doesn't have that gift, that talent that a fighter needs to go far enough to win a world title, I don't think he does anything in the ring which is exceptional, whilst I think he doesn't make a lot of bad mistakes in the ring, his workmanlike style has the downsides that a string counter puncher can land counter punches, punch in between his shots, and it takes a very, very good, adaptable, talented fighter to really work consistently and become a really improved, polished boxer who can box to their strengths, keep their styles which work for them, and making the adjustments that they don't give opponents those flaws, mistakes to capitalise on. I think Ryder has already done very well, boxing is not an easy sport, you have to take your hat off to any athlete in a sport like this, who always shows respect to their opponent, has lost a few times, discouragingly, but keeps coming back and trying to win, that's what I see from John Ryder, and he's already achieved a lot, he's won International titles, guys who beat him, do not box rings around him, he makes them work very hard for their wins, if winning a world title is not going to happen, then that's life, not every is wired to achieve something like that, but everyone can achieve something more than it seems they can, I think John Ryder is capable of being dominant at European level, he wouldn't disgrace himself in any fight, if Conor McGregor can get a shot against Floyd Mayweather, Ryder could get a shot at Groves, Degale, Ramirez, if he keeps fighting, keeps trying his best to win everytime, I don't think he would be undeserving of that opportunity, but at the moment, Ryder will be putting pressure on himself, and he should, he must believe he is much better than his record suggests, that he can achieve big things in boxing, he'll aim to make a statement, before he can think about an opportunity within close range of a world title shot, he'll have to come through Patrick Nielsen, and that will be no easy task, I highly doubt.

I think Patrick Nielsen is a very good fighter, he's not well known, but he's good, he's fought for silver titles, international titles, his record is 29-1, his only defeat coming against then unbeaten Dmitrii Chudinov, losing a wide decision, but he wasn't schooled, he made it competitive. Nielsen has defeated Jamel Bakhi, Charles Adamu, Rudy Markussen, no big names on his record, but he has defeated some decent fighters, most of his opponents, with winning records, Nielsen has been victorious far more often than not, so far in his career. Most of Nielsen's fights have been in his home country of Denmark, he's had a fight in Russia, a fight in Finland, 3 fights in Germany, apart from that, it's all been on home soil, it is an experience to fight in any other countries, Nielsen has done that on 5 occasions, but the UK is known for it's atmosphere in any big stadium, on any big occasion, the support for any British athlete, from the fans, over here, always has been, and always will be, absolutely immense, now Wembley Stadium, that is just about the biggest, most exciting stadium in the country, but certainly not a good fight venue for the nerves, the pressure, or the sense of equality with the support for the fighters. When Nielsen walks to the ring, the British fans will try to discourage, unsettle him, boxing is much more a mental thing than a lot of people realise, it will be interesting to see whether fighting at Wembley really affects Nielsen in a mentally negative way, or whether he can use the hostile crowd to spur him on, motivate him to do his job, win, have that sense that he can use a victory, a defeat for their man, to sort of bite back at the crowd, one thing I do know, is that it is unpredictable, and no fighter really knows what kind of a difference the event location will make until they have been there, seen it, done it. I've never seen Nielsen fight, so I don't know about his style or what my opinion on him a as a fighter is, but I do know that Nielsen has stopped about half the opponents he's beaten, that suggests he's not a particularly big puncher, but not a non-puncher either, it is interesting that he is 6'0, he's got 3 inches on John Ryder, Ryder is a short super middleweight, so he will be used to fighting a taller guy, but it is a different question as to how much Nielsen can make of a 3 inch height advantage, whether he can really make that work significantly in his favour. This is a great opportunity for Nielsen, if he has ambition to go really far in boxing, it isn't easy in a country like Denmark, to really make a name for yourself worldwide, so a fighter like Nielsen needs a chance to make a statement, make a name for himself in front of fans overseas, if he wants to step up a level, be the best he can possibly be, it's a good time to step on the gas, at 26, having had 30 fights, but he would be very unwise to look past Ryder, and on the other hand, a win over John Ryder, at Wembley stadium, would be a massive victory for Nielsen.

I struggle to predict a winner for this fight. Ryder, the guy who has been in the ring with a higher level of competition, Nielsen, the guy who loses less often, there are two different ways of looking at it, I can see either winning. I think Ryder will start fast, firing combinations that land around and through the defensive guard of Nielsen, building a likely lead after 4 rounds. I think in rounds 5-8, method, controlled, strategic boxing will come into it, and Nielsen may catch Ryder on the counter make him miss, for certain amounts of time in rounds, outbox him. I think after 8 rounds, it will seem to be all up for grabs, before they compete in a close round 9, which could be given to either guy, making it no clearer who is going to win. I think Ryder will find enough in the tank for a really good last round, which he wins clearly, making an impression, making people believe he has a slightly better chance than Nielsen, of getting the nod, getting the win. I think it will be a majority decision, 95-95, 94-96, 95-95. My prediction is a draw, I think the majority will think Ryder has won, he'll be disappointed, but so will Nielsen, who will also think he did enough to win, and impressed in the fight for sure, I don't think there will any real complaint from anyone about the decision.

I think a rematch will be possible for future, not a bad idea, it is sensible, worthwhile from the fighters when they are this evenly matched, if they are as evenly matched as I think they are, that is, but I would be very surprised if we were to see anybody get schooled here, I don't expect to see a stoppage either.