Ready Or Not: James Toney vs. Montell Griffin I

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Ready Or Not: James Toney vs. Montell Griffin I
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Date: 
Saturday, February 18, 1995
Location: 
Las Vegas, NV
Rounds Scheduled: 
12
Contracted Weight: 
175
Referee: 
Joe Cortez

Official Judging
Art Lurie 112 - 116
Bill Graham 113 - 115
Duane Ford 114 - 114

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After struggling to make 168 pounds and suffering the first defeat of his career at the hands of Roy Jones Jr., James Toney moves up to light heavyweight to take on the undefeated Montell Griffin. Toney wobbles Griffin badly with a right hand in the third round, but Griffin comes back to send Toney staggering into the ropes in round seven. In a give-and-take fight, Griffin gets the controversial victory by way of majority decision.




Averaged Fan Card:

round 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
James Toney
                                                                    
9
9.15
10
9.76
9.69
9.92
9
10
9.53
9.76
9.53
9.76
Montell Griffin
                                                                    
10
9.84
8.84
9.23
9.38
9.07
10
9
9.46
9.23
9.46
9.23


Fan Cards: Ready Or Not: James Toney vs. Montell Griffin I


scorecard by VC1088
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JAMES TONEY
9
9
10
10
10
10
9
10
10
9
10
10
116
MONTELL GRIFFIN
10
10
9
9
9
9
10
9
9
10
9
9
112


scorecard by CHRIS M95
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JAMES TONEY
9
9
10
10
9
10
9
10
10
9
9
9
113
MONTELL GRIFFIN
10
10
9
9
10
9
10
9
9
10
10
10
115


scorecard by POWERPUNCHER999
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JAMES TONEY
9
9
10
10
10
10
9
10
9
10
9
10
115
MONTELL GRIFFIN
10
10
9
9
9
9
10
9
10
9
10
9
113


scorecard by WHAT_IS_THE_DEFAULT_PASSWORD
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JAMES TONEY
9
10
10
10
10
10
9
10
9
10
10
9
116
MONTELL GRIFFIN
10
9
9
9
10
9
10
9
10
9
9
10
113


scorecard by KMSCR83
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JAMES TONEY
9
9
10
9
9
10
9
10
9
10
9
10
113
MONTELL GRIFFIN
10
10
9
10
10
9
10
9
10
9
10
9
115


scorecard by 1971791
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JAMES TONEY
9
9
10
9
10
10
9
10
10
10
10
10
116
MONTELL GRIFFIN
10
10
9
10
9
9
10
9
9
9
9
9
112


scorecard by SHADOWSFALL
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JAMES TONEY
9
9
10
10
10
10
9
10
9
10
10
10
116
MONTELL GRIFFIN
10
10
9
9
9
9
10
9
10
9
9
9
112


scorecard by RORSCHACH
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JAMES TONEY
9
9
10
10
9
10
9
10
10
10
10
10
116
MONTELL GRIFFIN
10
10
8
9
10
9
10
9
9
9
9
9
111


scorecard by BOXING KNOWLEDGE
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JAMES TONEY
9
9
10
10
10
9
9
10
10
10
9
10
115
MONTELL GRIFFIN
10
10
9
9
9
10
10
9
9
9
10
9
113


scorecard by TALESFROMTHECRYPT
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JAMES TONEY
9
9
10
9
10
10
9
10
10
10
10
10
116
MONTELL GRIFFIN
10
10
9
10
9
9
10
9
9
9
9
9
112


scorecard by ENDOFME1994
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JAMES TONEY
9
10
10
10
10
10
9
10
9
10
10
10
117
MONTELL GRIFFIN
10
9
8
9
9
9
10
9
10
9
9
9
110


scorecard by LUKASZRPB
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JAMES TONEY
9
9
10
10
9
10
9
10
9
9
9
9
112
MONTELL GRIFFIN
10
10
9
9
10
9
10
9
10
10
10
10
116


scorecard by COREY WILLINGER
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JAMES TONEY
9
9
10
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
9
10
116
MONTELL GRIFFIN
10
10
9
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
10
9
112


Comments

rorschach's picture

Toney was jobbed imo.

what_is_the_default_password's picture

"An insult to a great night."
-George Foreman, when asked about the decision after it was announced.

This was quite a good fight, Griffin had his moments but the match was not a close one. Ultimately Toney won more of their exchanges and he should have been given the decision.

Robbery aside, the fight was intriguing for stylistic reasons. Both Toney and Griffin fought out of their classic shells (now dubbed 'Philly Shell' thanks to a video game and achieved immortal infamy as Floyd Mayweather Jr used a similar-looking shell defense), and both fought out of an old-school crouch with their heads off the centre lines. As a result, the whole fight revolves around cracking the holes in their respective shells.

Toney was larger, arguably stronger, hits harder and was more experienced. Griffin appears to had a slight advantage in speed.

I liked what I saw with Griffin. He was active at taking angles and using his left hooks, both of which are a must against shoulder roll users. Roy Jones Jr cracked Toney's shell by constantly hopping to a different angle where Toney's body was exposed, while Emmanuel Augustus managed to make Mayweather abandon his 'philly shell' by spamming left hooks. By active, I meant Griffin at times lead with left hooks (instead of jabs) and occasionally Griffin deftly spun himself to a different angle while in the clinch with Toney. Sometimes Griffin would stick out his hands after punching to either stiff arm Toney or use Toney as a physical leverage to move to a new location in the ring.

Toney was slower, so he was not able to do what Griffin did to him. However, Toney quickly adjusted when he realised while Griffin could slip and roll away from headshots well Griffin was not as effective at defending body shots with his shell. Furthermore, Griffin's inside game with his shell was not as refined as Toney's (Toney's inside-game was a thing of beauty, with none of the elbow shenanigans Mayweather was infamous for). Therefore Toney targeted Griffin's body to wear him down (an unusual tactic as Toney was the larger guy), and suckered Griffin into fighting on the inside when Griffin should be doing hit-and-run.

Toney's display of superior inside game convinced me he won the fight. Unfortunately I suppose the subtle things that made inside-fighting a beautiful and lost art completely went over the head of three judges.

Griffin impressed, but Toney made the impression with his ring generalship and inside-game. In the grand scheme of things though, this fight is just another robbery in boxing's long history of highly questionable decisions, and it is hardly the worst one.

How many times you gonna add the same fights keep track I keep better track in my mind than you do that not a good look for you guys to me it makes you look like air heads.