Adam Kownacki vs Robert Helenius Scorecard by Champion97


scorecard by CHAMPION97
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ADAM KOWNACKI
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ROBERT HELENIUS
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28

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How's everything been man? Sorry I haven't been active in a while I have been busy as of late, I try to still follow boxing as much as I can.

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Could be better, still battling OCD, and my dog is very ill, she was on a drip today, she's only 2, she might have pancreatitis, or something similar, she's passed blood, she's going back to the vet tomorrow, we have no idea what's caused it. How are you man? Good your able to keep busy in lock down, I'm trying to be busy, I'm training hard, but I'm trying to do other things as well.

I hope everything works out for you man, dealing with stuff that involve pets is aways scary and sad. I'm alright, I still watch videos on boxing news and stuff like that I'm trying to be involved as much as possible. I saw Fury and Joshua have a deal in place to fight next year. Lomachenko and Lopez are fighting this year too which is great.

Also, I think Fury has Wilder beat already in this third fight, he's good at getting others to act out of character and with the trash talk now after Wilder lost, I feel Fury won't let up.

Hope you and your dog the best.

I hope everything works out for you man, dealing with stuff that involve pets is aways scary and sad. I'm alright, I still watch videos on boxing news and stuff like that I'm trying to be involved as much as possible. I saw Fury and Joshua have a deal in place to fight next year. Lomachenko and Lopez are fighting this year too which is great.

Also, I think Fury has Wilder beat already in this third fight, he's good at getting others to act out of character and with the trash talk now after Wilder lost, I feel Fury won't let up.

Hope you and your dog the best.

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She seems to be on the mend, no more blood in the last day. I'm watching classic fights with my dad, but I haven't seen any of the recent fights, the best fight this month I knew of was Baranchyk vs Zepeda, but Baranchyk pulled out. Whyte won his case against the WBC, so I think he might get his shot, but we'll See, Fury vs Joshua is the fight we all want to see, but I'd rather see Fury vs Whyte than Wilder, given how easy the second fight was for Fury, if Wilder had the same mentality as last time, and Fury doesn't slip up, it's an even easier win for Fury. Lomachenko vs Lopez is a great fight, Lopez raised his stock against Commey, I don't think he can give Lomachenko a close fight at this stage, but the fight could be the making of him, like Mayweather vs Canelo.

That's good to hear. Once I find more time, I'm going to watch more classic fights as well and have scorecards on the other account. What fights have you been watching? I rather see Fury fight Whyte then Wilder, I don't think there's anything Wilder can do to beat Fury to be honest. I rather see Whyte get his shot instead, then do the Joshua fight next year. What do you make of the excuses by team Wilder saying that Fury had objects in his gloves? I think Lomachenko takes it against Lopez. I feel like Lomachenko could stop him possibly. Also Miller is an idiot for failing another test. He should be banned.

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The last fight I showed my dad was Kimura vs Tanaka, we've seen some Leonard and Hagler fights, a fight I recommend is Saad Muhammad vs Yaqui Lopez II, we saw that one, and Foreman vs Lyle might be the best fight I've ever seen, that isn't one to miss. I don't buy it, Fury's team didn't object to having a representative for Wilder watching the wraps and gloves being done, there were no disputes as far as I know, I think it's just another excuse, I didn't see anything suspicious about Fury, he doesn't hit that hard, but he broke Wilder down. Possible, especially given Lopez's chin is questionable, he wasn't really hurt, but it's still worth noting he was counted on his debut, and he was hurt against Nakatani, but I think Lomachenko would be cautious, box for 12 rounds, the size disadvantage would make it harder for Lomachenko to stop him, I could see him beating by stoppage or decision, but let's not write Lopez off, because although he's still inexperienced and untested in a lot of ways, his offensive ability is great, especially his power and explosiveness, it will be interesting to see if he can get to Lomachenko, and if he hurts him, how he can build on it.

Miller is a mug, I was impressed by him as a fighter, good output for his size, good body puncher, decent jab, fairly fast hands, but he's wasted talent in my opinion. Miller's potential and caliber was unknown, he might have had what it took to be as good as I thought, but I could have overestimated him, and the drugs might explain his strength and output. Miller is a disgrace, swore on his kids' lives, he's failed five tests, he's done in my opinion, he didn't raise his stock enough to get away with any more, he didn't deserve the Joshua shot in the first place, but he was getting career changing money before he failed those three tests, and now, nevermind a payday like that, he'll struggle to get any fights, he's been inactive aside from covid, can't have made much from any of his previous fights, he should be fined again, his fines from last years failed tests cost him $30 million.

Kimura vs Tanka is in my top 5 favoirte fights ever, that was awesome. For me my favoirte fights are Erik Morales vs Marco Antonio Barrera ( I lump all three in together) and Hagler vs Leonard. I remember you recommending them to me when I first joined. I'll put the others in my list. I feel that Fury was fighting fair in the rematch, there were no complainrs in the first fight now all the sudden people are out saying that he's been cheating the whole time, it makes no sense to me. For Loma vs Lopez, it'll be interesting. I think that even though it might be too early for him, he still has the size and power to give Lomachenko problems. I wonder how Lomachenko will deal with that. I think it'll start with Lopez getting a decent start, then fading towards the end.

I can't believe that he failed again. I used to be excited to see him fight, now that he's a multiple time drug cheat that's all gone.

Also, what do you think of Robeisy Ramirez? He won his rematch the other day.

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It was definitely a great fight, Kimura is definitely an over achiever, I remember thinking he'd be a tune up for Shiming, he won that, and I thought Tanaka would stop him late, it was a great fight. Great trilogy, I showed my dad the first of the fights recently, another great fight is Salido vs Vargas, and Vargas vs Miura. People are looking for excuses, not just Wilder himself, his team, his fans, it's a joke, he'll always have a chance in any fight, with the right hand he has, but there is such a big difference in boxing skill, inside fighting, and Fury is so much more versatile, that he needs Fury to slip up, he can't just be the better man on the night because he's a better fighter, and he should step aside. It wouldn't shock me if Fury vacated, let Wilder fight Whyte for the belt, but I don't think that will happen, and Fury has Wilder and Whyte to fight before Joshua.

I think Lomachenko would use his feet to avoid getting hit, and his experience would be key, I don't think he'd let Lopez make much of his size advantage. Possible, Lomachenko isn't the fastest starter, the first round is often the closest when he dominates fights, it was the only round he clearly lost against Campbell, and with Lopez having only been 12 rounds once, 8 rounds once, I think he'd be more likely to gas, because he'd be made to miss, would take more clean shots.

No question he was a great amateur, and when an amateur is that good, he'll be at least a good professional, but I don't think he's transitioning well to the professionals, he avenged the loss, I haven't seen the fight, his debut was an off night, but I'm not sold on him as a fighter who will be as good a professional as he was an amateur. You?

Salido and Vargas was an awesome fight, I had it a draw.For Wilder, I never seen this many excuses after a fight in a long time. I think that Fury beat Wilder with different styles, it'll take for a big slip up on Furys part for him to lose. What makes you think Fury will vacate?

I can agree on that, but I feel at the start Lopez will have his best success if he does.

I'm excited to see him transition, I was interested into seeing him fight since he beat Stevenson in the olympics. Good to see him turn pro I think he should do well.

Are you watching the fights tonight?

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I don't think he'll vacate, I just wouldn't be shocked if he did, and the reason it wouldn't shock me is him not wanting to bother with Wilder or Whyte, because Fury is an all or nothing fighter, either has a career defining fight, or no fight, I know Schwarz, Wallin weren't career defining fights, but he's not the sort of fighter who fights for the sake of being active and being a professional.

I didn't watch the fights live, I have a lot of catching up to do. Did you watch the fights?

Putting it that way that makes sense, I could see him doing that. One thing I will say is Fury does what he wants he never cared about what others say on what he does.

I did, I liked the Castro vs Juarez fight, Castro looks solid. The Takam fight was real boring, Forest was not throwing at all.

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Very true, he has the mindset of a free agent even if he has a promoter. The problem with Fury vacating would be it would stop the Joshua fight being for all the belts.

Takam has to retire now, he should have retired after the Chisora fight, he was underrated, I knew he wouldn't be a walk in the park for Joshua, but he's well past his best now. I hope Whyte vs Povetkin doesn't get postponed again.

I do want to see it for all the belts it adds more to it.

I agree with you on that, he was touching his face a lot i don't know what all of that is about.

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I agree, they fight is what it is when it happens, but the belts add a historic aspect.

That's a bad sign, I'm concerned for Takam's brain, I've seen him blinking in fights, mouthpiece hanging out, same signs as McLellan, but not as clear ad McLellan, and I remember you saying if he had serious neurological issues, he wouldn't pass the medicals, which is a valid point, but there are bad signs.