Joseph Parker vs Junior Fa Scorecard by Gold


scorecard by GOLD
Round
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Total
JOSEPH PARKER
9
10
10
10
10
9
10
9
10
9
10
9
115
JUNIOR FA
10
9
9
9
9
10
9
10
9
10
9
10
113

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Gold's picture

Interesting fight technically but it wasn't a great watch for entertainment. Fa looked better than expected and will get more work even with this loss but the expectation for Parker was higher. Maybe he will get one or two more shots given his age but there's a decent chance Parker's career as a top title contender is over. He doesn't have the name value or promotional alignment to perform at that level. He needed a statement in this fight to keep his name in the conversation and he failed to do so.

Champion97's picture

I agree, it was an interesting fight, Parker jabbed his way in, was trying to set up the right hand, and he disguised the left hook as a jab, but Fa timed his right hand, did well keep up his movement. Like with Usyk vs Chisora, I was much more impressed by the underdog than the favourite even though I didn't have him winning. No doubt Kevin Barry is a solid coach, but as a boxing trainer at this level, I wonder if he's taken Parker as far as he can, I didn't see improvement from Parker tactically, I didn't think his pacing was good, he was erratic, fought in bursts, eased off, he should have been more consistent, shouldn't have tried to swarm Fa, should have been busier with his front foot, been more economical with his power shots in the first half. I wonder if Fa was betted prepared for the fight than Parker, I thought Parked looked heavy at the press conference when the fight was set for December, he'll have had a long camp, but Fa's conditioning might have been better, Parker is more often the better athlete, is reliant on forcing the pace.

Gold's picture

Parker did more for me for the reasons you mentioned here and on the main bout page, but Fa fought to his strengths well even if it made the fight ugly. I wonder if Fa looked better than he is here at least in terms of ring IQ/adjustment as a professional given that he's familiar with Parker. I think Kevin Barry is a decent world level trainer but I've heard there were questions back when he was training Tua if he was really getting the most out of Tua's ability and career generally. To me Parker hasn't and doesn't seem like someone who can really go through the gears, at least at a high level. Maybe they should at least bring in a sports psychologist or someone to try to get more out of Parker's mental game, but maybe he needs a change of trainers generally. Perhaps that is true with Parker's physical condition but he's at the point where he has to take responsibility and I think at least some of it has to do with his issues going through the gears mentally.

Champion97's picture

Very possible, I know they fought a few times as amateurs, but on the flip side, Parker should have been better prepared for Fa's style, I don't think Fa fought out of character, he fought with the same style as before, but utilised it better. I don't know why Parker didn't come in at angles, get his front foot to the right of Fa's as he comes in with the jab, or step to left as he starts to cut the distance, so he's in a position to beat Fa to the right hand, if that makes sense, but Parker made no adjustments in terms of Fa's right hand, he went straight towards Fa, I wonder if he thought his feet were too fast, and Fa would over reach, but I've seen Fa land a short right hand as his opponent is coming in. Fa isn't the most varied, Parker would have taken a lot away from him if he'd negated the right hand. I agree he doesn't go through the gears, he goes on and off the attack when he's on thr front foot. That's interesting, I don't know if I agree with that based on this fight, I agree based on the Cojanu and Leapai fights, but I think his issues in this fight were more tactical than psychological.

Gold's picture

That's possible but even back with Whyte I thought he didn't have the gears. Not everyone can put it together at the highest level and the mental aspect isn't a given, perhaps this is Parker's level. A fighter with a higher ring IQ may have been able to negate Fa in the ways you said.

Champion97's picture

I just read on BoxingScene that Parker has parted ways from Barry, seems it was an amicable split, both decent guys, but I definitely think it's a wise decision, I wonder who he'll hire, maybe Jeff Mayweather if he stays in Vegas.

Gold's picture

I think it's good as well, it doesn't necessarily mean Barry was the whole problem either, but he needed a change of scenery.

Champion97's picture

I'll need your predictions for Bohachuk vs Adams and Zorrila vs Madiyev very soon.

Champion97's picture

Too late I'm afraid, there's always next month, looks like a better month anyway.

Gold's picture

Ah, I saw an advertisement about the fight too so I should have remembered but I got stuck in the Friday/Saturday mode. I know you haven't let people join late in the past but to me it only hurts whoever does because the predictions can be changed up until fight time anyways. I understand if that's not how you want to run the competition though.

At least we have Chocolatito vs. Estrada II this month, of course I'm pulling for Chocolatito but I wouldn't be mad if Estrada won. I saw you picked Chocolatito as well. He's playing with house money in my opinion, obvious hall of fame fighter and showed amazing skills in his prime.

Champion97's picture

I'm not quite sure what you mean? But I'll take any advice you have about running the competition differently.

Definitely, his legacy doesn't depend too much on this fight, but it would be a great win, probably a better accomplishment than the first Estrada win.

Chris M95's picture

@Gold same here bud totally forgot about it woulda picked the Adams fight wrong anyhow lol

@Champ imo you run it well... obv there's always room for growth but I can't think of too many better alternatives but it seems harsh now tho and it got you needing to be on the site constantly in cases where fights are cancelled and the replacement fights then get added to pcom

Gold's picture

What I mean is that if Chris or I were to join this month after missing the Bohachuk vs. Adams card, it wouldn't help us at all in the competition versus everyone else. Us not picking is functionally like us getting zero points for picking the wrong winner but without any upside of having the chance to pick the right one. If the picks were locked in at the beginning of the month I could understand why you may want to exclude people from joining part of the way through the month, but because they can be changed up until the fight, there's no functional difference between forgetting to make a pick and not getting it right.

I agree it would be a better win, in my perception Estrada is better than he was then and Chocolatito is declining now. I thought the discussion you guys had on the fight was good, I lean more towards what Chris was saying but I understand where you are coming from.

Champion97's picture

You'd both be at a 2-4 point disadvantage, it might be different if Madiyev had pulled out the upset, which he almost did, but you'd both be at an unfair disadvantage. The prediction vault was finished at the start of this month unless my memory fails me, certainly last night's fights, I haven't added late notice fights mid month for a while, I try to give people advance, but more impromptu fights are being announced in the pandemic. If you want I can include you both in this month, that's where the percentages would be useful, because there are 15-20 fights in a month, so do you want to take part this month even with the disadvantage? I don't want to take command.

I'm not confident in my prediction Gonzalez will win, I'm 55/45 on him winning, but I'm confident it will be a great fight, based on all the fights I've seen both in.

Gold's picture

I'd like to, I'm not overly concerned about winning, if I wanted those points that are already accounted for I should have put them in on time. You put in the time to arrange it and calculate it, I don't want to step on your toes but if you are okay with it I'll put in the rest tonight or tomorrow. For tonight's fight I'll pick Shields by UD.

I'm confident it will be great as well, I can't see how it wouldn't catch fire with their styles and output.

Champion97's picture

If the winner is decided on percentages, I think that keeps it fair, and gives you as good a shot as the rest of us, but to avoid this happening again, I make sure to send active competitors a reminder a few days out from the first fight in the vault.

Gold's picture

Ah, I forgot about the percentages aspect. That could skew it (either way) with us having less fights, so it's totally up to you. I checked my email and saw I missed your post asking me to put it in by a few hours.

Champion97's picture

It seems like what I can take from this is to give you more advance, so I'll make sure I post a reminder a few days in advance. This scenario is when the percentages come in handy.

A lot of solid fights were just announced, Canelo vs Saunders is a big fight, a unification, but Ramirez vs Taylor is the biggest upcoming fight in my opinion, because it's for all the belts and they're both undefeated, I think it's a 50/50 fight. Andrade vs Williams is another great fight, I'm expecting you to lean towards Williams.