Honor & Glory: Saul Alvarez vs. Erislandy Lara Scorecard by Arj Guy


scorecard by ARJ GUY
Round
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2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
SAUL ALVAREZ
9
9
9
10
10
10
10
10
10
9
9
10
115
ERISLANDY LARA
10
10
10
9
9
9
9
9
9
10
10
9
113

Fight:



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Saul Alvarez

Erislandy Lara



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Seriously? You gave Canelo rounds 5,6,8, and and 11? Lara was jabbing and countering Canelo all night, while Canelo looked like a goofball that couldn't land a shot. I know Canelo has the look and an exciting fighting style. But all scoring on EyeOnTheRing should be unbiased.

Canelo was the agressor and in the rounds when neither guy did much he was the one pushing the fight. There is something called body shots. Don't know if you have heard of them but they do actually score. And I'm not being biased. I had Lara beating Williams, had Canelo not winning a single round against Floyd when some people had Canelo winning up to 4 rounds. This fight was close and could have gone either way. But again if you decide that you are not going to score body shots then obviously Lara won by a landslide.

Champion97's picture

Let's just keep this discussion calm shall we?

You yourself gave Canelo round 8. So wtf are you talking about??

Well then let me give you a round by round analysis of how I scored the fight, alright.

Round 1

Lara jabs keeps Canelo at bay and circles in a way that is reminiscent of Billy Conn and kept Canelo off balance as Canelo rarely ever threw a punch. Clear round Lara.

Round 2

Lara as in round 1 is the first to get off and instead of using the Billy Conn circling uses more of a Carlos Monzon of letting Canelo come in and picking his jab times. Canelo was the aggressor constantly coming in, but getting hit constantly, however with his Hagler like aggressiveness and relentless body attack evened out the round. Round 2 close.

Round 3

Lara decides back to the Billy Conn circling constantly sticking and moving. Canelo was still the aggressor, but not the effective aggressor. He tries to hit Lara with big shots but they all miss. All the while Lara jabs away and is the far more active of the 2 fighters. Round 3 Lara clearly.

Round 4

Canelo finally decides to let his hands go and continues the Hagler like attack and hits some real good body shots. Lara isn't active in the round and doesn't do much at all. Round 4 Canelo clearly.

Round 5

Lara picks up the pace and continues the Conn-like assault. Canelo tries to land body shots but nothing lands cleanly. Lara however manages to keep the distance while landing clean head shots. Round 5 Lara clearly.

Round 6

Lara continues to jab and makes Canelo chase him around the ring. Canelo reverts back to his earlier problem and refuses to let his hands go. Lara outclassed him with ring generalship and it is impossible to see it otherwise. Clear round Lara.

Round 7

Lara started off well with his stick and move style but Canelo decided to let his hands go and that gave him a ton of trouble and got cut open by a great Canelo uppercut. Round 7 Canelo Clearly.

Round 8

Lara looked exhausted in this round and Canelo was hitting him with good offense as he still kept up his Hagler-like assault. Canelo hit him with body shots that really looked like they hurt. Round 8 Canelo clearly.

Round 9

Lara hits his second wind and jabs over Canelo for the entire round. Canelo tried to hit some body shots but they were all caught on Laura's elbows. Lara was way ahead of him for the entire round. Lara round clearly.

Round 10

Canelo now looks as if he is chasing a bus wearing snow shoes. He couldn't go near Canelo without getting hit and just like most of the rest of the fight. Lara went with his Billy Conn style for the entire round and it worked just as well as most of the rounds prior. Round 10 Lara Clearly.

Round 11

Canelo isn't very active anymore and Lara jabs away at him with ease. He jabs at Canelo's face while Canelo fails to put up any real offense. All Canelo did in this round was stalk, and instead of hitting gets hit instead. Round 11 Lara Clearly.

Round 12

Canelo starts out aggressive and Lara picks it up quickly afterwards. They both hit each other with good shots and the round could have went to either man.

There you have it! 7 clear Lara 3 clear Canelo and 2 close rounds. Oh and I also box myself so I am very aware what a body shot is. If you want to keep arguing with me, send in your own round by round analysis.

Round 11

Rounds 5 and 9 were clear Lara rounds....... thats laughable

this guy glassjoe and the champ are clear canelo haters

Champion97's picture

Oh are we now?, well I think that that is a bit of a broad statement to be honest. If I'm a Canelo hater then why on earth did I give him 4 rounds against Floyd Mayweather? I also only gave Austin Trout a 1 point edge in their fight when the margin could well have been wider. I have no problem with Canelo Alvarez, I just feel as though he got too much credit in this fight for hitting Lara on the arms and gloves, just because I have an opinion that is against Alvarez in this particular fight does not by any means make me a 'hater', also if Glassjoe was a hater then he would not have given Alvarez round 7, he gave his round by round version of his opinion of the fight, explaining and justifying his scorecard. You are talking to arj guy aren't you? he got all upset and had an argument with Glassjoe which shows who is being biased, if arg guy's opinion was valid then he would have calmly stated it. My scorecard is 117-113 and Glassjoe scored it 117-111. I can understand this fight being even wider for Lara, that would be a slightly tricky case but justifiable, I can understand the fight going no wider than 116-112 for Canelo, I can easily understand him winning by a round or two, any wider than that is a tricky case, look at both of our analyses and read carefully, you will see that we merely have an opinion that you disagree with. Boxing fights don't revolve around you mate, I could just as easily call you a Lara 'hater'.

Really? Really you are going to call us haters. What evidence have you given to prove that you are not a Lara hater. Oh wait that's right you said, "I don't have to explain my scoring to you." Look I know how people work and I know for a fact that if you were confident about your score you and your knew friend would have explained it to me as to why you scored it for Canelo. What's the point in whining to this idiot anyway? I don't want to sound harsh but I just can't wrap my head around it.

For some reason I get the feeling that you are a fairly new boxing fan. If you are than that's okay, because I remember when I started watching I also had no idea what the hell I was looking at. If you are like that than let me explain how boxing works.

You're are right in saying that boxing is subjective but in situations like this it is a little more clear cut. When a boxer is the more active and is landing more shots he is winning the round. When one boxer is landing more clean shots while the other is more active but not landing the clean boxer is winning. When one boxer does more damage he is winning the round. When a boxer is getting shot at from all over the place and is only landing a few shots he is clearly losing.

That is how boxing works in case you didn't know. Judging by our last conversation I was unsure. I'm not a Canelo hater I see boxing how I see it and NEVER show favoritism. I also know that THE CHAMP is also one of the smarter scorers on EYEONTHERING and he also wouldn't show favoritism. Canelo is protected by GoldenBoy and it is becoming blatenly obvious with some of the decisions he is getting. If you believe that he won all of the fights that he said he won than you are believing exactly what Oscar De La Hoya wants you to believe. Read this and know that I don't dislike you I just don't want another bad judge on the web.

Just realized something by watching Teddy Atlas. Martinez gave Alvarez eight straight rounds rounds 4-11 and on the final round when the other two judges gave it to Canelo he gives it to Lara. It still baffles me on how people can buy that. 115-113 I can see. Do you like the boxer or the puncher. But the fact that people believe 117-111 is a fair score insults our intelligence and these people believe it. The reason why Canelo won was because he is the second biggest fighter today and if he would have lost Golden Boy would have been Bronze Boy promotions. This sport is corruptible and that's not an opinion it's been proven. There is even video evidence of Mark Lee taking money from the IBF and paying for ratings! It's not an opinion but a fact! Another thing is that when there is a close fight and it's competitive 99% of the time goes toward the money fighter. If Canelo would have lost De La Hoya would have been out of business. They had to win the fight or they would have been out of business. As I mentioned earlier the only reason Martinez gave Lara the last round was because he gave the last 8 rounds to Canelo as a way of saying "It couldn't have been me. I gave a round to Lara." Just keep that in mind to show how corrupt boxing is. I honestly believe giving Canelo 116-112 supports this corruption.

Champion97's picture

Ha, I've seen that video, I find it funny. Did you see the bit where he goes mental and yells 'IT MAKES ME SICK!!!'?, that geezer gets on my nerves.

I agree with you 100%, 115-113 is understandable because even the Lara fans must agree that he has serious stamina and work rate/activity issues, I completely agree that 116-112 is difficult to relate to, never mind 117-111. I think it is a bit harsh to say Lara won any less than 5 rounds and yet I don't see you fighting to give Lara the close rounds, I can think there were only a couple of rounds that Canelo won with nobody protesting against it, believe it or not I think that Lara out boxed Alvarez in round 7. Can you imagine the look on De la Hoya's face if Canelo officially lost? Hilarious but at the same time sad, goodness knows what Alvarez would be doing now.

I sent you a very long message earlier, don't worry if you don't get a chance to read it. Sorry, I know I type too much.

If Lara stepped up his offence I agree he COULD have won. But he always fights like that, people expected that before the fight. If a guy does not win seven rounds clearly then there is no robbery. 11-1 Lara is way too wide though. Canelo won rounds 4,7 and 8 decisively imo

Champion97's picture

No, not necessarily, round 7 is a very close, debatable round when studied.

Champion97's picture

I have nothing against you giving round 7 to Canelo, the majority of the witnessing judges believed he won that round.

Champion97's picture

None of us should get irritated or take anything to heart, this is just a close, disputable fight that can be seen from many different viewpoints.