what's your favorite current boxer ? My favorite current boxer is tyson fury
GGG, Wilder, Teofimo Lopez, Hrgovic, Crawford, Berchelt, Munguia.
Mikey Garcia, Anthony Joshua, Oleksandr Usyk, Dmitry Bivol, Callum Smith.
Lomachenko, Crawford, Usyk, Joshua, Fury, Hurd, Kovalev, Inoue
My top 5:
Crawford is a genius. I'm not a fan of tank out of the ring but in the ring I really like him. Also like Mikey, Teofimo and Inoue.
Teofimo can't be put with Mikey, Inoue, Crawford, in my opinion, it is annoying but also amusing how overhyped Lopez is, most of the others on that list are 3 or 4 weight world world champions, Davis is extremely dominant, has the Pedraza win, but Lopez, not even won an eliminator or beaten a fighter who is top 10 in their division, he is no more impressive, no more prepared for world level than Shakur Stevenson or Brandon Figueroa, and he is the only on of the bunch to have been knocked down, the only stoppage he has which stands out from the other prospects is the Menard finish, great KO, but in boxing, a fighter knocking a guy out cold with the first punch, it happens, Tete did that against Gonya, don't see anybody saying he is a top fighter.
I'm not putting him in anything mate , it's just 'favourites' :-)
Fair enough, but like him or dislike him, and by the way, I very much dislike him, Lomachencko vs Lopez, this year or next year, it's just crazy.
The issue for Loma is that he's clearing out all the divisions pretty fast. He's running out of opponents!
Is he? He's fighting Crolla, there is also Luke Campbell, Richard Commey, Robert Easter, Berchelt might move up, Davis might move up. Even if he did have no opponents, that's no reason to think Lopez is a real threat this early on if ever.
Crolla, Campbell and Commey aren't on the same planet. Easter Jr is PBC isn't he? so that's not gonna get made. Then we're talking about guys moving up. I'm not saying that Teofimo is on the same planet right now but he's an unknown quantity.
I'd like to see Tank step up personally. Short of Mikey stepping back down I reckon tank is the one with a chance.
I don't think they are in the same class as Lomachencko, but they could be competitive, if that is a problem then Crawford's problem at 140 was a lot worse, in 2014, Golovkin's problem was worse, sometimes there is one fighter who isn't challenged, it is no reason to get carried away and talk about Lomachencko vs Lopez. Exactly, he is unknown, just like all the other prospects, just because he might look like a great in the ring now, doesn't mean he is that good, because you don't get tested uuntil you step up. I think Tank is phenomenal, I agree he is a big threat to Lomachencko. Lomachencko vs Mikey won't happen because of the issues with Top Rank, that's why Mikey went up to fight Spence, Robert knows when a fighyer should retire, Mikey is too old, to let any more time slip away, he needs his biggest career fight, now, ideally, he would have got Lomachencko, but if no Lomachencko, move up and fight Spence.
weren't you hyping Miller a bit with the same logic though? :-P
Don't worry man, I'm not disagreeing with you on where Teofimo is right now. I'm not talking about him vs Loma. I do however think he looks like he has the potential to be a good opponent later down the line.
edit: I don't think Crolla will be competitive personally. Can't see him going more than 8. Body shots will kill him.
First off, -P?, what does that mean? I have a bad grasp of Internet talk.
No I wasn't, I was saying I am impressed by Miller, there aren't many unbeaten fighters at heavyweight who have fought at even his level yet, I'm saying he could be top 5, could be 10th, we don't know, for all we know, he could beat Ortiz better than Wilder did, for all we know, he would lose to Ortiz, which is why I am 100% against the Joshua fight happening next, Miller is well ahead of Lopez because he is a lot older and had double the fights, but before he fights Joshua, he should have been mandated to take an eliminator, I know why the fight was made, the problem is, as time is going on, fighters are getting a better idea of how much money they could or should get, and they don't like flat fees because it doesn't tell them how much better paid the A side is than they are, hence, Whyte turned it down, Wilder turned it down, Miller accepted, probably grateful to Hearn for the opportunity.
Whether Miller is up there with the 3 giants, or he is not top 10, his lack of pedigree will hurt him against Joshua, he never fought at a high level as an amateur, definitely not Olympic sort of level, Joshua won the gold, beat Savon, Cammarelle, and as professionals, Klitschko, Whyte, Parker, Povetkin, Takam, probably all better than Duhaphas, who I think is Miller's best opponent so far.
We'll see, but I am more impressed by Stevenson.
Lomachencko vs Crolla is just one of those, nice to see Crolla get the opportunity of a lifetime, wish him all the best, leave it at that.
Personally I think it's a good decision from Miller to take the fight. I think he loses to AJ at whichever point in his career it is, therefore he may as well get his pay day now whilst it's on offer. If he was to fight someone like Whyte, Povetkin or Ortiz and lose, the chance to get this huge pay day would never come. This is where I do give Dillian Whyte some credit, he fights whoever, no matter how risky it may seem. I think he's earned his payday.
Is Miller ahead of Teofimo? That's a matter of opinion I guess. He's had more fights, fair point. But neither of them have faced a world level opponent. Talent wise, I feel Teofimo is more equipped. We won't know until he steps up a level. We'll know pretty soon with Miller. Very much like Whyte, it's possible for Miller to lose this fight and come out with a lot of credit. We'll see, I'm looking forward to it.
As for :-P
Tilt your head 90 degrees anti clockwise and take another look at it :-P
edit: Crolla is one of the good guys in boxing. He's a warrior and boxed out his skin for several years now. I too wish him all the best. I just feel that he'll get out classed in an enormous way and finished inside the distance for certain.
Of course, you don't always have the option of waiting for the best time for yourself, sometimes it could even be now or never, so fair play to him. It would depend on how he lost, but we really can't say with confidence that he would win or lose against Povetkin, Ortiz.
Yes, a lot older, a lot more professional years and fights, been 12 rounds. We'll see, but Teofimo is just a prospect at the minute, he could be a top fighter, ok, so could all the other unbeaten prospects.
Don't get it. Never mind, I don't do Internet talk.
Not for certain, and not 99% guaranteed, but likely.
Joshua has much better amateur pedigree and will pick Miller apart in my opinion. However, I wouldn't tout wins over Savon/Cammarelle when nearly everyone thinks he lost the first and many think he lost the second.
Even if he had lost, its still pedigree, still experience, and for what it is worth, they were close fights, would have been disputed either way.
Fair enough. Like I said, Joshua has the far better amateur pedigree. Miller certainly didn't fight at the level as an amateur and has never faced anyone as skilled as those two even as a pro. However, I can't agree that they were both close fights. I thought Savon's case for a win was extremely strong, and that he had decisively beaten Joshua. I had Savon winning all 3 rounds and didn't think it was particularly close. The fight with Cammarelle was close, although I still view as close but clear.
Not how I saw it, but I was just rooting for the GB fighter, very happy for him when he got the wins.
You got predictions for March?
NF82 - Here's a random fact for you. I went out for a meal last Thursday. Local place that usually has stacks of car parking. I arrived to be told there was no space for park. Then I see a massive queue out of the door at the place that's next door to the restaurant. I asked guys at the car park what was going on.....and it turns out Tyson Fury was hosting an event next to the restaurant! Crazy. He turned up in an 08 reg white van lol.
My top 10 current fighters outside of Pacquiao are
1. Anthony Joshua
3. Gennady Golovkin
4. Vasyl Lomachenko
5. Deontay Wilder
6. Tyson Fury
7. Oleksandr Usyk
8. Shawn Porter
9. Mikey Garcia
Kovalev and Yarde after that sick show
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