Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Jose Luis Castillo I Scorecard by Lewgr10


scorecard by LEWGR10
Round
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FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR.
10
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9
112
JOSE LUIS CASTILLO
9
9
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8
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10
114

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Champion97's picture

You are a new scorer if I'm not mistaken, I'm Jonny good to meet you. I had a look at your scorecards and I must say yours are really similar to mine, you are clearly a good judge from what I've seen. I'm well known for going on and on and on about boxing on this site so if you ever have a fight you can't stop talking about then I'm the scorer to discuss the fight with. BTW have you seen Bradley vs Chavez? I'd like to get your opinion on that fight.

I had it as a two point fight, but to me it was even clearer than that. Mayweather won close rounds, but Castillo's rounds were decisive. I haven't seen the first Marciano/LaS tarza fight, but there is some debate on who won that. Still when people talk about Marciano's legacy, LaStarza is less than a footnote. My fear is that Jose Luis Castillo will become less than a footnote in the story of Floyd Mayweather. People have already acted as if they forgot, and some don't even know about this fight. Mayweather won the rematch, and rightfully so, but that doesn't take away from the fact that Jose Luis Castillo earned a victory of Floyd, and was robbed. 47-1!

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I completely agree with you, from what I remember this was a fight full of clear rounds, I remember Floyd having 4 very good rounds where he used his feet and superior hand speed, out throwing and out landing a predictable looking Castillo, in these 4 rounds Mayweather was often throwing in combinations which won't have been something Castillo expected, I also remember a couple of rounds that could have gone either way because Mayweather was boxing very nicely with his technical skills but Castillo was landing with harder and more effective punches that weren't buzzing Floyd but they were far more eye catching and had far more on them, he was also more active in one of them, I think. I remember saying after the fight that there had been 6 rounds when Castillo had come forward, landed a lot of what he was throwing, consistently beating Mayweather to the punch, being very accurate, being very effective in keeping Floyd inactive and clearly winning these rounds. I wasn't half the judge I am today when I saw the fight and I'm not sure how accurate that assessment is. If I watch it again and agree with myself then this would mean that Floyd can not properly win the fight but it could have been a draw and can go no wider than 115-111 for Castillo, I don't know if you agree with what I have said.

BTW sorry about all those blank comments, totally accidental. Have you heard about the Pacquiao controversy regarding the injury he fought with?, I wonder how different the fight would have been if he wasn't injured.

I don't know how the injury changed the fight. I may have to watch it again. It seemed to me that Manny was having problems closing the distance with Floyd, and when Mayweather held, Manny didn't hit him during the clinch, or complain about the holding the way Bryant Jennings did against Klitschko. There was at least one part of the fight where Floyd was on the ropes, and Manny seemed gun shy, so moments like that is where the injury could've been a big factor. If Manny was healthy he probably would've punched more, and who know how Mayweather would've responded to that.

As far as the fight with Castillo, I think that 114-112 Castillo, and 115-111 Castillo would be the most reasonable scores followed by 113-113.

Champion97's picture

This is funny because I have nothing to say for the reason that I agree with so much of what you have said, I would be just telling you what you have just told me, you are a brilliant judge, my analysis of the fight is exactly like what you said, I noticed Manny holding back instead of throwing that right hook of his and the injury halved his punch arsenal, causing him to fall into the trap of Floyd Mayweather. I think the injury got to him mentally, making him forget about his punch variety, great angles, lateral movement and composure, it was such a shame. I agree about Mayweather vs Castillo, I will watch it again but from what I remember it was exactly like you said. I said before the fight that a common advantage that Floyd would lose would be taking points from his opponent, Manny is too humble and calm to get himself in a position where a ref can even excuse a point deduction.

This reminds me of Froch vs Groves in 2013, it is that what if again, that fight was stopped prematurely and it was that famous question "If Groves had been given a chance to recover would he have regrouped and maybe continued to dominate or would he have been legitimately stopped?", in this situation it is "If Manny with both shoulders in tact fights Floyd, can throw his usual unpredictable combinations with the usual speed and power and this time use his attributes then he can hurt Floyd more often and more badly for sure but can he do enough to win?", I think so.

On a different boxing topic I would be interested to know what you think about GGG vs Canelo, GGG vs Cotto and Cotto vs Canelo. I think Cotto is the best of the 3 and is followed by Canelo. Did you see Canelo stop Kirkland?, wow what a brutal finish.

I think this is really a fight that could go either way and I wouldn't really argue either way.. but 115-111 is too wide for either guy. I think the second fight proved that castillo can hang with money even if floyd was not injured. remember going into the 10th round two judges had castillo up by 1 in the rematch. floyd swept it and won by two rounds..

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Like I said it was a long time ago that I saw the fight and I may not be entirely accurate, there is no way that 115-111 for Castillo is a joke, it really annoys me when people treat 8-4 like a too wide score in a close fight, boxing is debateable and subjective, do you know what that means?

I will agree with you on something though, I hate it when people say Mayweather easily beat Castillo in the second fight, it was also a very close fight.

I know what debatable and subjective mean.. I watched this fight 2 months ago and would have to watch it again to really score it. I said it could of gone either way.I think its 7-5 either guy, a draw if you are not sold on either fighter at all.. 8-4 just seems like a reach for me on either fighter in this particular fight. I actually agree with this guy for the most part.. round 5 and 8 were tough to score, and remember the judges had wide margins for mayweather in this fight and I did not agree with that at all.