Carlos Takam vs Dereck Chisora

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Carlos Takam vs Dereck Chisora
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Saturday, July 28, 2018
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Fan Cards: Carlos Takam vs Dereck Chisora


scorecard by METALHEAD123
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CARLOS TAKAM
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DERECK CHISORA
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scorecard by GOODGOOD
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CARLOS TAKAM
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DERECK CHISORA
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63


scorecard by MARTHOLOMEW
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CARLOS TAKAM
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70
DERECK CHISORA
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63


scorecard by MBUCK
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CARLOS TAKAM
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DERECK CHISORA
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scorecard by ALLYBLAACK
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CARLOS TAKAM
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70
DERECK CHISORA
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63


scorecard by BLUE JUDGE
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CARLOS TAKAM
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70
DERECK CHISORA
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63


scorecard by CHRIS M95
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CARLOS TAKAM
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70
DERECK CHISORA
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63


scorecard by ABURIUS
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CARLOS TAKAM
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70
DERECK CHISORA
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63


scorecard by HART
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CARLOS TAKAM
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70
DERECK CHISORA
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63


scorecard by NF82
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CARLOS TAKAM
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70
DERECK CHISORA
9
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65


scorecard by CHAMPION97
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CARLOS TAKAM
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68
DERECK CHISORA
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65


scorecard by THEICEMANJDOG
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CARLOS TAKAM
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69
DERECK CHISORA
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64


scorecard by KAISERKOBA
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CARLOS TAKAM
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69
DERECK CHISORA
9
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65


scorecard by PABLOESCOBAR57
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CARLOS TAKAM
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68
DERECK CHISORA
9
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65


scorecard by HTTP
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CARLOS TAKAM
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70
DERECK CHISORA
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63


scorecard by NOCTISSOLID
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CARLOS TAKAM
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69
DERECK CHISORA
9
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64


scorecard by MATCHROOM
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CARLOS TAKAM
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68
DERECK CHISORA
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65


scorecard by NEWDOWN2031
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CARLOS TAKAM
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69
DERECK CHISORA
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64


scorecard by MARTIN EDEN
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CARLOS TAKAM
10
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69
DERECK CHISORA
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64


scorecard by BOXING KNOWLEDGE
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CARLOS TAKAM
10
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69
DERECK CHISORA
9
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64


scorecard by GOLD
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CARLOS TAKAM
10
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67
DERECK CHISORA
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66


scorecard by SALTNUTZ1
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CARLOS TAKAM
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66
DERECK CHISORA
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67


scorecard by NEWDOWN2030
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CARLOS TAKAM
10
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76
DERECK CHISORA
9
9
9
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74




Comments

Matchroom's picture

Great fight! This Matchroom card has been simply awesome.

Champion97's picture

Gutted for Carlos Takam, but happy for Chisora, what a finish, I wasn't expecting that, I thought he would fade down the stretch, I thought he looked the more tired, he was struggling to produce the output, he took so many punches, but Takam worked at a pace no 37 year old heavyweight can work at for that long, took some big shots himself, and unfortunately for him, he just didn't hold up when he got caught, couldn't recover, and he got knocked flat out.

Takam should retire now, I think the 9-10 month gap wasn't great, but at 37, he still has a lot of miles, Povetkin, Parker, Joshua, all gruelling fights, he tried his best, gambled, fought the wrong fight in my opinion, and couldn't get the other guy out of there, maybe it was a resilience thing, Chisora has always had a good chin, Takam doesn't really I don't think, but he is not the fighter he used to be, even though he put up a great effort, was winning the fight, and could have won the fight in my opinion.

Chisora did very well to produce that finish, it shows, that when he trains his hardest, he can still win fights at this level, he isn't the fighter he used to be, but he proved he is still capable of being a much better fighter than he was against Kabayel. I wonder if Wilder would fight Chisora this year, if not the Whyte vs Parker winner.

SalTnutZ1's picture

I think I'd like to see him and Fury for a 3rd bout if no champ will give him a look. I think that would be a good test for Fury next year to see if he is truly back or not.

Gold's picture

If Takam doesn't have a good chin, what does that say about Joshua's performance versus him?

No way Wilder fights anyone even remotely related to Matchroom before he fights Joshua. That would be bad business by Wilder's team. It would be very ugly for Chisora if he fought Wilder but I wouldn't be mad if Chisora got a big opportunity for a final payday.

Champion97's picture

Do you want the answer? Or are you just making a nuisance of yourself?

Gold's picture

I'd like to hear your justification of it if you think Joshua is a big puncher.

Champion97's picture

Joshua vs Takam was a negative fight, Takam took little over the course of 9 rounds, landed very little, he survived for a while, when Joshua actually did land, you could see the reaction, he hurt Takam whenever he hit him clean, it was just a very negative fight, which is why it went 10. Joshua hits a lot harder than Chisora, but Takam fought a very different fight, Joshua would have needed him less fatuiged and less of a target than he was tonight to get a more explosive KO than Chisora did. Takam is a great athlete, a good fighter, got heart, but he doesn't have a great chin.

Gold's picture

Outright disagree. Perhaps you should search Joshua vs. Takam highlights and you can see all of the flush power shots Joshua hit Takam with and Takam stood in there. Takam did fight differently versus Chisora than Joshua, but he took more punishment and got busted up versus Joshua while Chisora's good clean shot was worth more than Joshua's.

Champion97's picture

He does not have a granite chin, put it that way. They were not flush shots, not Joshua's hardest because of Takam's mobility, there were not that many clean punches in that fight, Takam didn't let Joshua look good, but couldn't outbox Joshua, that is why people think it was a poor performance, although he was heavy for that fight, Joshua. Just think about it, Chisora had a fatuiged, vulnerable target, Joshua didn't, Chisora can not produce a gight finisher which is better than Joshua's best fight finisher or close, Takam was moving, defending against Joshua as Joshua threw, he respected Joshua's power, he didn't respect Chisora's power, and there was a lack of defence, lack of movement, which is why he took all Chisora's power but not all Joshua's, and Takam was using his brain, moving in that same gear against Joshua, against Chisora, he emptied his tank trying to get him out of there.

Gold's picture

The argument wasn't if he had a granite chin or not, its if he had a good one or not. That's the weight lifter's fault he couldn't cut off the ring because he was too heavy. Joshua did hit him with flush hard shots, I don't know why you would argue that when you can watch them yourself. He wasn't much heavier than he was versus Wlad. Chisora looked really faded himself, Takam was walking him down. What is Joshua's best fight finisher? Stopping Wlad on the ropes? Knocking out an absolute bum in Zumbano Love? If Takam didn't respect Chisora's power after he took a few rounds of those big body shots, I don't really know what to say. Takam looked better for wear going into the late rounds versus Chisora than Chisora did.

Champion97's picture

You are the most annoying shit I've ever come across on the Internet, you just make stuff up, can't handle anyone else making good points.

You can't be serious, you are talking down Joshua's power you idiot. Joshua hurts guys, is on top in one sided fights, the ref saves them from getting sparked. He stopped Wlad, look at those KDs, the Johnson KO, the Breazeale finish. He didn't hit Takam flush very often, it was a negative fight.

Sure, clown, the body shots from Chisora took their toll when it suited you, but Takam was fine and the KO was independent the next minute, make up your mind.

Gold's picture

Joshua may not even be the second best puncher at Heavyweight, I'd personally rate Ortiz better. When I think of great punchers at Heavyweight, I think of someone like young George Foreman, when he hit people with his best clean shot, they were hitting the deck, he didn't need rounds to build up the punishment. That version of George Foreman knocks out Anthony Joshua for my money.

Champion97's picture

Joshua finished off Whyte with a devastating right uppercut, sparked him.

I don't think KOs, one punch Knockouts!, are important, not the be all and end all, it is hard to say they aren't more impressive, because there is something about a one punch KO, but definitely, being smart, breaking fighter down, beating the fight out of him, is very impressive in a different way. Joshua might not have Wilder power, he doesn't have top top natural power, maybe not, but he still has a lot of power, is very heavy handed, his sheer size and bulk helps his power, but it is more tha he is a brilliant offensive fighter, has great output for a heavyweight, has great variety, and an uppercut, a classic, jarring uppercut, worst head shot to take probably, that is not an easy punch to land at this level, Joshua has the timing of a great fighter, the accuracy as well.

Gold's picture

His reliance on the uppercut may cause him issues versus Wilder/Fury (if Fury gets it together again). It's going to be really difficult for him to land it on them when they are taller opponents who want to box on the outside.

Champion97's picture

I don't think he relies on the uppercut, he doesn't throw it that much, he throws it at the right time, he has plenty of variety, Joshua, underrated jab. The height issue could be an adjustment for all of them, because none are used to fighting opponents nearly as tall as them, but Joshua is the shortest I suppose. I think Joshua is a great outside fighter, I was impressed with his jab against Parker, and I think we will see more his jab against Povetkin and in other fights. I think Joshua could still execute a good setup and land that devastating uppercut on Fury and Wilder, but it would take patience, I don't see an outside fight necessarily being a problem for Joshua. I think Joshua's jab to the body would be a good weapon against them, he used it well against Parker.

You got Joshua 2nd after Wilder?

Gold's picture

I don't know if it is true that the height will be an issue for any of them versus each other. They have all fought legitimate Super Heavyweights. I feel like the Whyte vs. Parker fight devalued the Parker win for Joshua but yeah he showed he can box well. It is very hard and risky to land the uppercut at Heavyweight when the other guy is taller. I don't think Joshua will try it often if he faces Wilder or Fury. The issue with Fury theoretically for Joshua is the same as it was for Wlad, he's going to move around a lot, use a lot of feints and strategically outpoint him, if theoretically Fury somehow got back up to his old abilities, I think Fury would be a big problem for Joshua on the outside. It would be interesting to see if Wilder could get Joshua a little gunshy on the outside because of his jab and power.

I have Joshua as my #1 Heavyweight due to his resume.

Champion97's picture

Devalued as in how it looks? Or do you now think Joshua's win over Parker is less impressive than you thought before Whyte beat him? No, I agree, but what I'm saying is, he won't and really doesn't throw it often, but when he has the timing on it right, positioning, he can land that shot like Fury and Wilder can't, with a certain amount of precision, it only takes one remember, when he beat Klitschko, it wasn't that the general pace was too much for Klitschko, he took most of Joshua's punches quite well, I don't even think Joshua's final punches were even hurting Klitschko that much in themselves, he just could not recover from that jarring right uppercut which jarred his head up extremely hard, I don't think any fighter can take that shot and not be hurt. I agree, Fury's movement, range control is brilliant, Joshua would take more risks than Klitschko, he would take more shots from Fury, but he do a lot more himself, Joshua is versatile, Fury was able to nullify Klitschko's jab, you'd think if he can do that to Klitschko, he could do the same against Joshua, but Joshua's output is higher, Fury might not nullify the jab to the body as easily, but definitely, if Joshua could make Fury work, take some risks, but let Fury move around and exert his legs, let Fury move, but make sure it is pressured movement. I think they'd both by gunshy, it would be about who can punish the other guy for a mistake.

But would he beat Wilder in your book?

Gold's picture

Devalued in that Whyte was able to beat him, granted, they were totally different fights. Yeah I agree, the uppercut is great but he has to be in position to land it, he was able to do it versus an old Wlad but will he be able to do it versus Wilder or Fury? That is yet to be determined. I agree he would take more risks than Wlad did, but I think stylistically the best version of Fury is all wrong for guys like Wlad and Joshua. I don't think Joshua has faster feet than Wlad did at that time, and that's one of the most important parts to punishing Fury's style. That's why I think Wilder is a worse matchup for Fury than Joshua, Wilder is faster and will be able to wear on Fury more easily. Wlad's output seems to be underrated now because of the Fury fight, he had better than average output for the Heavyweight division during his title reign. It's just that Fury's style really made it difficult for him.

Joshua vs. Wilder at this point is a 50/50 fight in my view

If Kovalev was to give it one more effort, would you like to see Kovalev vs. Beterbiev (assuming the boxing politics could work out)? I think Beterbiev is by far the weakest belt holder and it would be a good amateur grudge match given Kovalev believes he was robbed by Beterbiev back in the day.

Champion97's picture

I think Parker was not at his best against Whyte, it was too soon, but another way of looking at it, is that it might be ore of a positive for Whyte than a negative for Joshua. Good question, I think he can, Wlad doesn't have a good chin, but it has always been hard to find his chin, so it says a lot that Joshua could land it against him, I think he can definitely land it against Wilder, but I think against Fury as well. I agree, the best Firy is close to unbeatable. I don't think Joshua has slow feet, but I agree, he isn't as nimble as Klitschko was, but I just think with Joshua, Fury would struggle to engage, because of the power and variety of Joshua, and if Joshua knows that, he doesn't have to work too hard, he can just let Fury exert movement, and when they go into the trenches in the second half, Joshua can swing the fight in his favour. He's also more flawed, and easy to hit than Joshua, and although Wilder is more fleet footed than Joshua for the duration of the rounds, but he really holds his ground and sinks into the canvas when he throws, just the way he fights, but it makes him more vulnerable to taking the full power of a counter. I don't remember his output being that high, I remember him having that commanding jab, but he didn't struggle to do enough work against most opponents, but no wasn't Klitschko labelled 'boring' because he did what was necessary to keep winning the rounds? Wasn't he a smart, controlled fighter who threw just enough but nothing more than that? I think Klitschko was too intelligent for his own good against Fury, Klitschko throws when therevis an opening, when he is very confident it is going to land, but against Fury, he might have found literally less than 5 of those chances.

It was 90/10 for Joshua last September, what changed your mind? Wilder beat Ortiz but you said he looked terrible and hisnpower bailed him out, which I don't agree with, were you just not impressed by Joshua against Takam and Parker?

Not particularly, I think just retire, if now isn't the time to hang up the gloves, when is? We've seen his best, when he beat Hopkins, fought Ward and had a great 6 rounds in each fight, then won a world title again, what more does he have to prove? He just got battered, he is 35, only getting worse, no I don't want to see Kovalev in the ring again. So you think Kovalev vs Beterbiev would be interesting because Beterbiev is an ease off from Alvarez? Fair enough, but I don't agree, and I definitely thini Beterbiev is better than Stevenson at this point, so no, I don't want to see Kovalev fight any of the champions. Beterbiev vs Johnson should be good, but I know you don't like crediting fighters based on lower level wins when they haven't beaten anyone at woeld level, but I think Johnson is very good.

Gold's picture

The issue is that Whyte arguably lost to Derrick Chisora less than two years ago and I don't think he has improved much since then. Even though Parker looked really bad I also don't think he beats Parker with a good quality referee like Jack Reiss who wouldn't have called the knockdown and would have docked him a point for how dirty he was fighting. I don't really know how well I rate the Wlad win for Joshua, the guy was old and coming off a really long layoff, I definitely don't rate it better than Fury's win like some people somehow do but it was likely Joshua's best performance and win. Wlad wasn't at his best when Fury beat him either but Wlad still had an absolute cannon at that point, enough to put Joshua on the deck, but he just couldn't find the range/rhythm to land it versus Fury. I think Joshua would have the same issues versus prime Fury. I also don't think it is a given Joshua would be able to take it into the trenches versus Fury, we've seen Joshua have some difficulty with guys who will move before. It surprised me too when I looked it up a while back, but it is actually true about Wlad. He was really good at outpointing guys and Fury totally dominated him at that, I think that is a big credit to Fury. I think Joshua would have to fight more strategically versus Fury like he did versus Parker which is more like Wlad used to.

I watched the Wilder Ortiz fight again, I underrated Ortiz's ability and power. I do think Wilder's power bailed him out, but power also gave George Foreman blowout wins versus Joe Frazier and Ken Norton, when it is that much power sometimes not a lot else is needed. I wasn't impressed by Joshua versus Takam or Parker really but the Parker fight I kind of write off, I think Joshua could have done better if the referee let him work on the inside.

I think he should retire too, but I think Beterbiev would be an interesting fight. Beterbiev did not impress me at all versus Koelling, an opponent he should have definitely stopped earlier. I think Stevenson would win honestly after seeing him do well versus Badou Jack. I think Johnson has a good shot if he can box, I know he stopped Buglioni in one round but that's basically all I know about him.

What do you think about the potential fight between Big Baby and Adamek? I don't really understand why Eddie would make that fight, Miller is going to be expected to roll over Adamek, it is kind of a no win situation in my view.

SalTnutZ1's picture

I feel like that Adamek fight is just red meat for the Polish fans in Chicago, as there are a ton, and to get Miller into the WBC rankings, as he isn't currently, and with Adamek ranked #24, a win against him would likely launch him into the rankings, whatever that's worth. Those are the only two reasons that make any sense, because otherwise, like you said, no win situation in terms of fan perspective.

Gold's picture

Those are really good points, I guess I always associate New Jersey and New York with Polish boxers in America so that wasn't on my radar. Adamek still has a name I guess but I would have rather seen Miller fight Pulev in Bulgaria. If he did that and won I would have given him a lot more credit than I would for beating Adamek.

SalTnutZ1's picture

Same. I live in Kansas City, and have a lot friends/family in Chicago, so that is really the only reason I know/think about the Polish fans there; a huge amount. Adamek is big in that community for obvious reasons, and hasn't fought there much, so this as a send off fight in America could actually bring some fans to the arena, though it won't put any more eyes on the television to watch it. The WBC angle is the only other portion that makes sense, since somehow Miller isn't ranked at all by them currently. I would have rather seen that, too, as that would have been a more competitive fight, and would have proven more than beating Adamek at this point. This is a no win, as he either beats an old fighter, or somehow losses and all future opportunities are diminished significantly.

Champion97's picture

I don't agree at this point, I don't think we should read much into that anymore, good fighters have close calls, granted, I wasn't impressed, but he's beaten Parker now, Parker boxed well against Joshua, beat Ruiz, Fury, Takam, I mean we knew he was a good fighter, I think Whyte has improved over the last year or two, and he could have done better against Chisora, and to be honest, I think Chisora is a drugs cheat, wouldn't put it past him, and I find the power we saw from him against Whyte and Takam, a bit suspicious, not devastating punchers are suspicious, but what is suspicious is him not being a puncher, and us never really seeing much power from him before he was 33, when a puncher is a puncher like Chisora seems to be now based on the Takam win, we see their developed power easily by the time they are 30. I am not saying Chisora IS on something, I'm saying I SUSPECT he is. I still don't agree about that being a seriously dirty fight, scrappy, messy. but nothing malicious. I think best vs best, Parker beats Whyte, but even if that is true, which it may or may not be (it's maybe 60-70% in my opinion), the fact is, Whyte won, fair and square, and we have to give him credit for that, Parker is young, might have his best years ahead of him, he is very good, but he is tested, he's been in against Joshua, we both thought Whyte would lose, he proved us both wrong, so we have to give him credit and acknowledge he's better than we thought.

You have to rate it, I mean, that was a motivated, conditioned, experienced Klitschko, and Joshua was 27, 18-0, hadn't fought anyone good apart from Whyte and that was a British level grudge match really, I mean if you don't give him credit for that, you must be able to count impressive wins on your fingers. Actually though, I strongly agree with what yiu say there, people say 'Joshua beat the better Klitschko, Klitschko didn't do anything against Fury and that's why he lost' well that's lack of thinking, because the facts are, Klitschko was a over a year younger when he fought Fury, he hadn't fought for twice as long as ideal, maybe more, and he was at home against Fury, away against Joshua, Fury made Klitschko look bad, made him look older than 39 if you ask me, Joshua fought a great fight, won, but he couldn't make Klitschko look bad, Canelo looked like he'd been hyped up, was not that good when he fought Mayweather because he fought Mayweather, Povetkin looked overrated when he fought Klitschko because he fought Klitschko, Postol looked clueless, very limited against Crawford, but at 34, quite inactive, he just legitimately made a fight against Josh Taylor, very close. It isn't a given, but I think he can. Boxing is about timing, Fury wasted a good 2 years, was obese, drugs, Joshua was active, consistent, I do not believe Fury can ever beat Joshua or Wilder now.

So did I, I read too much into his weak resume (you must have done as well) and how dreadful he was against Scott, but what we have to remember he is a hardcore deug cheat, failed at least two drug tests, he has high blood pressure, why does a 40 year old have high blood pressure? Stress?, I don't think so, I think he is too young, it is a side affect of steroid use. Well I think they were both robbed of success by Quarterone.

I didn't see that fight, Beterviev impressed me agaknst Prieto and Cloud, he is unbeaten, he didn't lose rounds vs Koelling did he? Beterbiev seems to be another one of these guys who has great amateur pedigree, and does well as a pro, not marketable, not well managed or promoted, but keeps winning. Well there is definitely an argument for that, but he is 40, and Jack is not top 5 in the division in my opinion, then again, he's easily top 10, strong at 175, and I predicted him to get stopped against Jack, it was a draw, so I underestimated Stevenson, but I still think he is the weakest of the 4 champions, and also, think about the damage and wear and tear from the Jack fight, 40 is always old in boxing as we both know. He's untested, let's see how he does against Beterbiev.

I don't know, I would definitely like to see him fight tougher opposition, he needs tests, but maybe that is all they could get. I wouldn't mind seeing Miller vs Ortiz. I agree, because he doesn't prove anything if he wins, it's better than nothing. I think Miller is very good, but I might be wrong, let's hope he gets tested sooner or later.

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Wow!! Definitely a fight of the year candidate! Takam really bulldozed Chisora and, frankly, I thought it wouldn't be long until the ref stopped it. Takam was really relentless and that was a great performance from him. But what a knockout!! Could be win the tripple crown of UPSET, KNOCKOUT and FIGHT OF THE YEAR, in my opninion!!