Deontay Wilder vs Luis Ortiz

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Deontay Wilder vs Luis Ortiz
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Date: 
Saturday, March 3, 2018
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12
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Fan Cards: Deontay Wilder vs Luis Ortiz


scorecard by MIZARK44ENIS
Round
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Total
DEONTAY WILDER
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84
LUIS ORTIZ
10
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86


scorecard by JAMIE.BAIN99
Round
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DEONTAY WILDER
9
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82
LUIS ORTIZ
10
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88


scorecard by TREY813
Round
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Total
DEONTAY WILDER
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85
LUIS ORTIZ
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86


scorecard by MBUCK
Round
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Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
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84
LUIS ORTIZ
10
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86


scorecard by BLUE JUDGE
Round
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Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
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83
LUIS ORTIZ
10
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8
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86


scorecard by MOERKEDAL
Round
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Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
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85
LUIS ORTIZ
10
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85


scorecard by HUGO DE NARANJA
Round
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Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
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84
LUIS ORTIZ
10
10
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8
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86


scorecard by METALHEAD123
Round
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Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
10
9
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84
LUIS ORTIZ
10
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8
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9
87


scorecard by LEO MASTER
Round
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12
Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
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8
9
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84
LUIS ORTIZ
10
10
9
10
8
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9
85


scorecard by STINGEV98
Round
1
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Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
9
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81
LUIS ORTIZ
10
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8
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88


scorecard by AJPENA
Round
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12
Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
9
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85
LUIS ORTIZ
10
10
9
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8
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85


scorecard by DIEGOYEYE
Round
1
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12
Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
9
10
9
10
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8
9
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84
LUIS ORTIZ
10
10
9
10
8
9
10
10
9
85


scorecard by MUSHAVR96
Round
1
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9
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12
Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
10
9
9
10
10
8
9
10
84
LUIS ORTIZ
10
9
10
10
8
9
10
10
9
85


scorecard by STATICERUPTION
Round
1
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12
Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
10
9
9
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8
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84
LUIS ORTIZ
10
9
10
10
8
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9
85


scorecard by BOYGLE
Round
1
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12
Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
9
9
10
10
10
9
9
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84
LUIS ORTIZ
10
10
10
9
8
9
10
10
10
86


scorecard by JAROD KILLIAN
Round
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Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
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9
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85
LUIS ORTIZ
10
10
9
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85


scorecard by MIKE4502
Round
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Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
10
9
9
10
10
8
9
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84
LUIS ORTIZ
10
9
10
10
8
9
10
10
10
86


scorecard by FLOYD TOUGH COMPETITOR MAYWEATHER
Round
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Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
10
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85
LUIS ORTIZ
10
9
10
10
8
9
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85


scorecard by LGWISEMAN
Round
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Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
9
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85
LUIS ORTIZ
10
10
9
10
8
9
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85


scorecard by CHRIS M95
Round
1
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Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
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84
LUIS ORTIZ
10
9
9
10
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85


scorecard by JONTAM23
Round
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Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
9
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9
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83
LUIS ORTIZ
10
10
10
10
8
10
10
10
9
87


scorecard by ONLY1
Round
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4
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9
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11
12
Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
9
9
9
10
10
8
9
9
82
LUIS ORTIZ
10
10
10
10
8
9
10
10
10
87


scorecard by HART
Round
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9
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Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
9
9
9
10
10
9
9
10
84
LUIS ORTIZ
10
10
10
10
8
9
10
10
9
86


scorecard by WILLIAMBOXING
Round
1
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12
Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
9
10
9
10
9
9
9
9
83
LUIS ORTIZ
10
10
9
10
8
10
10
10
10
87


scorecard by HSYED
Round
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Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
9
9
9
10
10
8
9
10
83
LUIS ORTIZ
10
10
10
10
8
9
10
10
9
86


scorecard by PETIEROACH
Round
1
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12
Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
10
9
9
10
10
9
9
10
85
LUIS ORTIZ
10
9
10
10
8
9
10
10
9
85


scorecard by OTURN10
Round
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Total
DEONTAY WILDER
10
9
10
9
10
10
8
9
10
85
LUIS ORTIZ
9
10
10
10
8
9
10
10
9
85


scorecard by NF82
Round
1
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12
Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
9
10
9
10
9
9
10
10
85
LUIS ORTIZ
10
10
9
10
8
10
10
9
9
85


scorecard by QUESTIONMARK
Round
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Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
10
10
9
10
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9
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84
LUIS ORTIZ
10
9
9
10
8
10
10
10
10
86


scorecard by AKHMAT
Round
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Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
9
9
9
10
10
9
9
10
84
LUIS ORTIZ
10
10
10
10
8
9
10
10
9
86


scorecard by THEALTERPLACE
Round
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12
Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
9
82
LUIS ORTIZ
10
10
10
10
8
10
10
10
10
88


scorecard by POWERPUNCHER999
Round
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12
Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
9
9
9
10
10
8
9
10
83
LUIS ORTIZ
10
10
10
10
8
9
10
10
9
86


scorecard by THEICEMANJDOG
Round
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Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
10
83
LUIS ORTIZ
10
10
10
10
8
10
10
10
9
87


scorecard by KAISERKOBA
Round
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Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
9
9
9
10
10
8
9
10
83
LUIS ORTIZ
10
10
10
10
8
9
10
10
9
86


scorecard by RUTHLESS-RKO
Round
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Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
9
9
9
10
10
8
8
10
82
LUIS ORTIZ
10
10
10
10
8
9
10
10
9
86


scorecard by RUET
Round
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Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
9
9
9
10
10
9
9
10
84
LUIS ORTIZ
10
10
10
10
8
9
10
10
9
86


scorecard by MJARSULIC
Round
1
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12
Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
9
9
9
10
10
9
9
10
84
LUIS ORTIZ
10
10
10
10
8
9
10
10
9
86


scorecard by SALTNUTZ1
Round
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Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
10
9
10
10
10
9
9
10
86
LUIS ORTIZ
10
9
10
9
8
9
10
10
9
84


scorecard by BOXING PURIST
Round
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12
Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
9
9
9
10
10
8
9
9
82
LUIS ORTIZ
10
10
10
10
8
9
10
10
10
87


scorecard by LEWGR10
Round
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12
Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
10
9
9
10
10
9
9
10
85
LUIS ORTIZ
10
9
10
10
8
9
10
10
9
85


scorecard by BLOODMONEY80
Round
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Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
10
9
9
10
10
8
9
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84
LUIS ORTIZ
10
9
10
10
8
9
10
10
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85


scorecard by PREMIER BOXING CHAMPIONS
Round
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Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
10
9
10
10
10
8
9
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85
LUIS ORTIZ
10
9
10
9
8
9
10
10
9
84


scorecard by SHOWTIME10
Round
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Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
9
9
9
10
10
8
9
10
83
LUIS ORTIZ
10
10
10
10
8
9
10
10
9
86


scorecard by ADAMJO260
Round
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12
Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
9
10
9
10
10
9
9
10
85
LUIS ORTIZ
10
10
10
10
8
9
10
10
9
86


scorecard by CHAMPION58
Round
1
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9
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12
Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
10
9
9
10
10
9
9
10
85
LUIS ORTIZ
10
9
10
10
8
10
10
10
9
86


scorecard by WINGSTOP
Round
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12
Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
9
9
9
10
10
8
9
10
83
LUIS ORTIZ
10
10
10
10
8
9
10
10
9
86


scorecard by MIKE25
Round
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Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
9
9
9
10
10
9
9
10
84
LUIS ORTIZ
10
10
10
10
8
9
10
10
9
86


scorecard by JDTOMP29
Round
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12
Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
10
9
9
10
10
9
9
10
85
LUIS ORTIZ
10
9
10
10
8
9
10
10
9
85


scorecard by OASIS-OF-REASON
Round
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9
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12
Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
9
9
9
10
10
8
9
10
83
LUIS ORTIZ
10
10
10
10
8
9
10
10
9
86


scorecard by NOCTISSOLID
Round
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Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
10
9
9
10
10
8
9
9
83
LUIS ORTIZ
10
9
10
10
8
9
10
10
10
86


scorecard by MARTIN EDEN
Round
1
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12
Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
9
9
9
10
10
8
9
9
82
LUIS ORTIZ
10
10
10
10
8
9
10
10
10
87


scorecard by LUKASZRPB
Round
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Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
10
9
9
10
10
8
9
10
84
LUIS ORTIZ
10
9
10
10
8
9
10
10
9
85


scorecard by CHAMPION97
Round
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12
Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
9
9
9
10
10
9
9
10
84
LUIS ORTIZ
10
10
10
10
8
9
10
10
9
86


scorecard by ENDOFME1994
Round
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Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
9
9
9
10
10
9
9
10
84
LUIS ORTIZ
10
10
10
10
8
9
10
10
9
86


scorecard by ZAC.RJ
Round
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Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
9
9
9
10
10
8
9
10
83
LUIS ORTIZ
10
10
10
10
8
9
10
10
9
86


scorecard by BOXING KNOWLEDGE
Round
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Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
10
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9
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85
LUIS ORTIZ
10
9
10
10
8
9
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9
85


scorecard by GOLD
Round
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Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
9
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84
LUIS ORTIZ
10
10
10
10
8
9
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10
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86


scorecard by TJK146114
Round
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Total
DEONTAY WILDER
9
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84
LUIS ORTIZ
10
10
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86




Comments

Gold's picture

I think this is a decent fight. Luis Ortiz is definitely a top heavyweight contender and was the best guy available for Deontay Wilder to fight, so at least that much can be appreciated. Some people think Ortiz will give Wilder trouble but I think this is around an 85/15 fight for Wilder where Wilder would have to do a lot wrong to lose. I believe this is kind of a no-win fight for Wilder, if he wins and destroys Ortiz, then his detractors will just say he beat an old man, and if he has some difficulty, then he will continue to be seen as limited by his detractors.

In terms of outside factors, the fight is in New York City where Wilder has fought a few times. I assume he will have the home crowd advantage but there could be a small Cuban faction as well. Wilder is also the A-side champion with considerable promotional backing so Wilder may get the benefit of the doubt if things are really close.

For Wilder, he’s been at the world level for a few years now. He’s 32, in his prime as a big but trim heavyweight, 6’7 with an 83 inch reach but usually only weighs around 220 lbs. Wilder only started boxing at 19, and he apparently has a pretty good amateur pedigree where he won an Olympic Bronze in 2008, but it doesn’t really show in the ring. Wilder mainly has success through his athleticism and power. However, he does have a good jab and uses it well to push forward, setting up his big power right hand which is the biggest punch at Heavyweight. He won the title off of Bermane Stiverne in 2015, the only time he ever went the distance, where he hurt his hand but dominated Stiverne. Wilder was to fight Alexander Povetkin in Russia which would have been a great name on Wilder’s resume, but Povetkin popped for steroids. Since beating Stiverne, he has made six defenses of his title against mediocre opposition, dominating and knocking them all out.

For Ortiz, he has been just below the world level for quite some time now. He’s old, supposedly 40 years old, but he may be even older as Cuban defectors often have misrepresented birth dates. Ortiz is a good sized heavyweight, 6’4 with an 84 inch reach at around 240 lbs. He has a strong Cuban amateur pedigree, and he is a southpaw counterpuncher which is quite odd and rare at heavyweight. He has a pretty big punch which he used to knock out his best opponent Bryant Jennings. He has popped for steroids a few times now which has prevented him from fighting for legitimate world titles, making this his first world title appearance. Interestingly, Ortiz has only went ten or more rounds once in his entire professional career.

I think Wilder will win this fight pretty easily. For Ortiz to win, he is going to have to stay on his game the entire night, and I don’t know if he has the engine that Wilder does. I believe Ortiz may get exposed as well, he won’t be able to roid out given his doping program is not sophisticated enough to beat VADA testing, so we may see a quite limited version of Ortiz. It may take Wilder a moment to figure Ortiz out as Ortiz has such a strange style for heavyweight, but once he does I think Wilder will open up behind his jab and eventually knock Ortiz out.

Regardless of who wins, they will likely have to take one more fight between now and the anticipated undisputed heavyweight championship match-up between them and the winner of Joshua/Parker because of Povetkin’s WBA mandatory. If Wilder loses, I don’t think he is done, he is still relatively young for a heavyweight and can work his way back into contention. If Ortiz loses, I think he is definitely done as a top level heavyweight, he is old and won’t be in demand anymore.

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I think Wilder's opposition is underrated, I mean, Gerald Washington beat Eddie Chambers, Artur Szpilka beat Tomasz Adamek, Johann Duhaupas beat Manuel Charr and Robert Helenius, Stieverne, a few years back, around and before the time of the Wilder fight, was a very good fighter, I'm not saying for a second that his opposition has been fantastic, but he hasn't been fighting guys with many losses, just fighters who aren't at the level that we would hope to see Wilder fight. People say Wilder fights bums, but they don't use their brains, it isn't the fights he has had, it is the important fight he has or hasn't had, his opposition, overall, would be great, had it been him who fought Klitschko and not Joshua.

I honestly think Ortiz is overrated, I certainly don't think he makes the top 5, no way.

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They aren't necessarily bad opponents, perhaps I should have said middling opposition instead of mediocre. I just don't think there are a lot of good heavyweight opponents in general though. Stiverne the first time around was his best opponent and a good resume name, I agree. Ortiz is overrated by some but heavyweight is so barren that he makes the top five for me: Joshua, Wilder, Parker, Povetkin, Ortiz. Who else could even make the top five? H. Fury who has almost no resume outside of losing to Parker? Pulev who wouldn't fight Joshua? After that it gets really sad, we are talking about the Big Baby Miller's and Whyte's of the world.

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I cannot help but agree with Tony Bellew that an Ortiz win would be 'disaster for boxing'. Despite the abysmal state of the heavyweight division, its champions would always be considered as the faces of boxing. Do we want someone who failed his drug test twice to be one of the faces? I know I rather have a windmilling fellow instead of someone who got caught doping twice.

Regardless, Wilder has youth on his side. He just need to know when (not) to use his windmills...

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I disagree with Wilder needing a 'windmill' shot, Wilder does throw wild over hands, but he also throws short right hands and straight right hands down the middle.

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Wilder is certainly underrated in a technical perspective. In any case, a win over Ortiz will solidify his status as a truly elite Heavyweight for those who question his ability. Ortiz is the name Wilder needs on his resume; after Wilder get rid of that old doping fart he can move on to bigger names on his hit list.

The 'windmill' is meant to be a tongue-in-cheek meme, at least for those who understands what they are watching. Of course, there will always be 'casuals' who sprout these labels un-ironically, unfortunately. In any case, in this day and age of the internet I don't think it is bad for a fighter to become well-known (among casuals because the money that keeps the business going flows from their grubby wallets) because of some silly memes. There is no such a thing as bad publicity, or so the saying goes. 'Windmill' certainly sounds funnier than a 'bodybuilder' or a 'ballet dancer'...

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A mismatch, Ortiz lost 2 rounds arguably 3 of the 9 completed rounds by the time he tired and got stopped. Joshua has been fighting top fighters time after time and fighting another in Parker in a couple weeks, Wilder has this single good win out of 40 and you want to call AJ vs Wilder 50-50. I highly doubt Wilder could make it through White, Breazeale, Klitschko, Takam & Parker undefeated, but lets put Wilder on a level playing field as AJ, ridiculous.

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Wilder by knockout, in 6 or 7.

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Easy fight to score from 5-9, but I disagreed with the judges based on the first 4 rounds, they were close, but I gave them all to Ortiz, the judges must have given at least 2 of those rounds to Wilder.

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Terrible & corrupt judging. I can't fathom how there are people that actually think Wilder with his no technique and 1 win over a ranked opponent (a very old opponent) but still 1 win in 40 over a live body, and there are people that think this guy beats Joshua. Laughable, AJ is infinitely more skilled, is younger, hits just as hard, and has fought and stopped numerous top ranked opponents. There have been numerous HW's over the years with power like Wilder's (AJ being one of them) a punchers chance is all Wilder has, although bad news for him AJ has the same chance with his crazy power, but he can also box Wilder to a shutout. I believe AJ shuts Wilder out for 5 rounds then turns Wilder's lights out in the 6th.

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If you don't think Ortiz was a good win, AJ's best win is versus an old Wlad coming off a year and a half layoff after a loss and other than that we are talking about the Whytes and Breazales of the world, some "ranked" opponents. AJ's power is probably the most overrated at Heavyweight, either him or Povetkin at the moment. Just think of what Wilder would be if he didn't have all-world level power. He would never have world title let alone sparked Ortiz. Wilder would have gotten Takam out of there while AJ needed the referee to do it for him. Not saying that means AJ is trash, he is a better all-around boxer, but sometimes at Heavyweight power is the only relevant metric.

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Oh, okay

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Dude, shut up. You have your opinions, and I have mine. You've been crying all day, I think Wilder sucks, I don't care if you don't agree. And I don't care to get in a back and forth with someone that loses their nut like you. You defend people that attack and threaten others for their scorecards, you've deleted fights I've asked for that you created over a comment about Deontay Wilder. Grow up and quit acting like a child throwing a all day temper tantrum, over some comments you don't agree with. I don't like the clear favoritism you show to certain people, even if they go off the deep end on someone unprovoked, but I'm not telling you to get off the site or throwing a hissy like you do about it. Grow up, man up, you need to do both, either way there is no need for us to talk to each other, but I'm not going anywhere. There are much worse offenders to other users here that you're chums with, so you have no business telling me to leave anyway.

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I don't care though, just like you don't care that I think your opinion of Wilder is BS. Do you really think there aren't more than a few fighters in the boxing game that agree with my opinion? You'd be off if you did, I simply don't care to look. Just because I don't agree with you on Deontay fucking Wilder somehow means I don't know boxing, I mean could you act anymore like a child who doesn't get his way, in my view you don't know about boxing because you hold Wilder in such high regard/on a level of AJ. The guy is a can crusher with 1 good win to his name in 40 fights, double the amount of AJ who has more impressive wins in 20 fights. You can continue to cry and throw a fit all you like, but I'm not going to go back and forth with you. I simply don't care enough about you or the topic, and we're not going to change each others minds. You carry on throwing your hissy if you like, but I'm done with you.

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And you should be Champion_Crybaby_Bitch97.

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You're the one calling me a piece a shit you moron, you are throwing a childish fit. Learn from a nut, you are off your rocker, how is this type of behavior allowed to go on here, you keep escalating. How many comments did you make insulting me before I said anything 10-15, just fuck off already man you seriously are coming off as crazy, you're not going to change my opinion.

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The advice from Breland was perfect after round 7, 'keep the jab in his face, and stay off the ropes', Wilder listened when he absolutely had to, and he got through round 8, I think he wouldn't have done if he'd tried to fight off the ropes, back Ortiz up or hold his way through the round, Ortiz was too dangerous and offensively good for Wilder to survive in the pocket before he'd recovered, and Ortiz was the stronger fighter, but Wilder's jab negated Ortiz's attack, bought him time, knocked more out of Ortiz, and made Ortiz have to reach with his shots.

Ortiz didn't allow Wilder to get his shots off in the early rounds, he was patient, his pacing was good, he used his technique and amateur background, made Wilder react by coming in at an angle, had the ring generalship to cut off the ring, but didn't have to stop Wilder getting off the ropes because Wilder couldn't take advantage of getting the distance back, his blocking was great whenever Wilder got a shot off. The shot that hurt Wilder in round 7 was great from Ortiz, he made Wilder miss with the right hand by slipping just enough to avoid it, wasn't fazed by the shot as it came, didn't lose his positioning, and landed the double impact right hook to the temple off the ropes as Wilder threw the right.

Wilder's patience was important, he had a low risk game plan, his output was low, but his focus was solid, and the timing on the right hand was great when he hurt Ortiz in rounds 5 and 10, both were explosive straight right hands off the back foot, Ortiz was hurt both times, but in round 10, it wasn't the end of the round like in round 5, and the fatuige aspect made it easier for Wilder to build on it.

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Hey Champion97. I sent an email to the website admin and never got a reply. Is it possible we could strike up a conversation? I wish I could send a PM but this is the best I could do.

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I can help you most likely. What is on your mind?

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Hello, I am going to forward the email I sent to contact@eyeonthering to zoe@eyeonthering.

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Hi Dr F, I read your email and I'm going to reply here.

Our fight data is the only thing we have of some value here, and so no, I am not interested in giving it away. I hope that you can respect that answer, and respect where I'm coming from. This site was built as a labor of love, and while it's not known by a huge number of fans, the few of us that enjoy the scoring aspect are happy to have our community here. Most, if not all, other boxing sites are built to make money for the people involved in them. EOTR was not built that way. Please don’t attempt to scrape or otherwise take from us. There are very few corners of the web left, in any subject areas, that are built with the intention of community building over making money.

Now I will also add if you’re interested in talking about building tech for people that in some way brings people together, or is even just focused on something *other* than making $$$, I can happily talk about that all day long. Also I’m very familiar with building side projects / “labor of love” projects… and it’s harder than it might seem. Many people talk about it, and start, but very few of these projects ever make it to market. I can also talk about that a fair bit too.

Good luck in your project.

~z

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This project is actually exactly that, bringing the community together. I have no intention of making any profit. It's purely a passion project and I think it would be a cornerstone of boxing on the internet. I'm surprised nobody has thought of it yet. Contact me through e-mail if this sounds interesting to you. Thanks for the honest reply.

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Hey Zoe.

When I submit a comment or add a picture when I add a fight, a big red caption appears, it says "public hand sanitizer", and "dangerous values", I don't understand what it means, I wonder if you could, look into it at some point.

Thanks, and I hope you are doing well.

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Hey. I'm not a site administrator, I'm just a very active member, but I'm always happy to talk boxing, if that's what you wanted to strike up a conversation about.