Fight Of The Century: Joe Frazier vs. Muhammad Ali I Scorecard by glassjoe


scorecard by GLASSJOE
Round
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3
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JOE FRAZIER
9
9
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9
9
10
10
10
9
10
142
MUHAMMAD ALI
10
10
10
10
10
9
9
9
10
10
9
9
9
10
8
142

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It's not bad judgement. This fight was a fight that the scoring depended on what boxing style you preferred. If you prefer the more aggressive style then yes this fight belongs to frazier. If you prefer ali's style of hand speed and calculated punches then it goes to Ali. In the end it was a close fight that I can see going to either man. I feel like I should mention that Joe Frazier is also overrated because after Ali his resume gets pretty thin as his best wins came from Oscar Bonovondida and Jerry Querry. Two solid fighters but definitely not elite level competition. Also not to mention his embarrassing loss to George Foreman, its safe to say that he doesn't rank as highly as other heavyweights.

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I know that some people prefer hand speed and calculated punches, I myself have scored wins for fighters based on speed and accurate punches but if you watch it carefully then you see in the later rounds it's just Ali doing nothing but getting cut down like a big tree by Frazier on the ropes, no matter how accurate you are you have to be at least fairly busy, Ali was very inactive after the first few rounds. If this fight was close then both men would feel that they had won the fight and would've both raised their arms but Ali looked really pissed off because he knew that he had lost unquestionably, Frazier looked not just as if he felt he had won but also as if he knew he had won, also Frazier was just as much of a warrior as Ali, I say this because in the 'thrilla in manila' at the end of round 14 Frazier was so battered that if he had gone out for the last round then he may well have died but he still wanted to carry on even though he was fully blind and behind on the scorecards, he never gave up but Ali was different, he quit, well he said he wanted to quit, I 'my not sure the rumour that he really would have quit is true. You must agree that if a trainer stops a fight and the other fighter quits then the fighter who doesn't win should not lose by RTD, its disgraceful, I think that if Ali had won a TD then that would have been fair enough because he was ahead on the scorecards, I'm not buying him quitting when he only had 3 minutes left after he had shown all that heart for 14 rounds, that raises the point that he had shown a world of heart for 14 hard rounds.

Ali wanting to quit on his stool is nothing but a lie against Ali. When Ali said “if id taken the punches he took in there, i’d have quit long before he did”. I believe in that quote Ali was speaking figuratively to express his admiration for Frazier’s courage. Angelo Dundee even made a comment about this saying and this is his exact words “so how can they make a statement like that, Ali didn’t say a word in the corner after the 14th”. “I said you’ve got him baby you’ve got him and that was it”. If it (the supposed comment about cutting the gloves off) exists, fine, but it didn’t exist, it didn’t happen. If Fraziers corner wouldn't have thrown in the towel Frazier would have become nothing but target practice and would have been destroyed just like he was in his two fights with Foreman. I should also say that Ali is really just as much of a warrior as Frazier ever was. What about when he broke his jaw early in the fight against Ken Norton? What about when he was getting decimated by Larry Holmes but he wouldn't give up until Dundee threw in the towel himself? What about when Ali was getting clobbered by Earnie Shavers and yet still managed to earn the unanimous decision? How about when Ali continued his career even though he was being urged to retire because his kidneys were falling apart had vocal stutters and trembling hands. Say and believe whatever you want to say and believe, but Muhammad Ali was a warrior if there ever was one.

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If Muhammad Ali had fought lennox Lewis then Lewis would definitely have won. Agreed?

There is no real definitive answer to that question and a lot of it has to do with which Muhammad Ali we are talking about. I believe that the prime 1966 Muhammad Ali would be something far beyond anything Lewis had ever handled before he was by far quicker, more durable, and more talented than anything Lewis has ever handled before. I believe in a 12 round bout Ali would win the Unanimous Decision by a good 5 points or so. A 1974 Muhammad Ali would be the more exciting of the two matches. I imagine Lewis's jab would probably give Ali a fair deal of trouble, but Ali being the clever fighter that he is would find openings and expose Lewis at times and eventually shut his eyes. This bout would go the distance for sure as I can't recall a time when Lewis stopped a guy after 8 rounds, and this version of Ali wasn't known for knockouts. The decision would be close and a hard fight to score with the judging going either way.